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Fri Dec 09, 2005, 02:35pm
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if the ball is sitting there at their feet and they are just standing and waiting for the clock to get to 5 seconds, i would start counting when they are next to the ball and aren't making an attempt to pick it up!!!
now if it gets away and they are running after it, don't start counting till they get to it and pick it up, as long as by your judgement that they are not using clock on purpose!!
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