Good question from another forum......

Throw-in question. The thrower, A1, jumps forward and his body is airborne and completely through the plane of the boundary line in-bounds when he releases the throw-in. The throw-in is then legally completed.

Legal? Violation?

Rules citation?

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Dec 8th, 2005 at 08:35 AM]

Let's see. Since I just read this on the other board, my guess is it's a violation -- as OMT pointed out. :D

Violation -

SECTION 2 THROW-IN PROVISIONS
ART. 1 . . . The thrower shall not leave the designated throw-in spot until the ball has been released on a throw-in pass.


[Edited by IREFU2 on Dec 8th, 2005 at 08:40 AM]

I just changed the original question slightly. Answer it now.

If he can manage to keep his feet over the spot until it's released, it's legal.

Rules citation for an end-line throw-in?

4.42.6 note: the thrower must keep one foot on or over the spot until the ball is released.

Doesn't this rule apply to all throw-ins?

yes, with the exception of after a made basket and being able to run the in line.

AS IREFU2 said, there is no spot to keep a foot over. The note isn't applicable to an end-line non-spot throw-in.

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This reminds me of a player on a soccer team that played against my son's team. This guy would hold the ball in both hands above his head about 10 back from the boundary line. He would take a step or two, and then jump forward and down onto his hands with the ball still being held, and execute a complete hand-spring (or fly-spring, if you're a gymnastics expert). After his feet came over the top and landed on the ground, the momentum of his rotation as his upper body came up, gave the ball incredible force. If he aimed carefully, he could easily have gotten it clear out of bounds on the far side without it ever touching the ground. The first goal this team scored was when this kid in-bounded the ball from nearly mid-field toward the goal. One of their players was expecting this, and headed the ball into the net uncontested since my son's team was completely unprepared for this play.

Case 7.6.2 applies also - for a designated spot throw-in, anyway!

Just when does vertical become horizontal?

What if A1 had backed up and then jumped forward, they are allowed to move up within the spot.

By rule they are still OOBs 4-35-3, so are they carrying the spot location with them?

Doesn't apply for an end-line non-spot throw-in also though, does it? Or does it? :)

Since I missed the "How many angels are on the head of a pin" discussion, is this a case of an event not specifically covered in the rules?

But we did say in an earlier thread, i think....the opposite was TRUE right... Question??? once the ball has been released by the thrower, opponents may break the throw in boundary plane???