And so it begins......

[buckrog64]

One quarter into the season and I'm already having a difference in opinion over a rule change. In Iowa, the girls had adaptations from the NFHS rules, such as numbers on uniforms, coaches putting players back in who were previously unconscious and also when the PA changes on the throw in. Working j-high girls, often times the scorekeepers are students and the coaches are their teachers. So when a coach says something to the student about the arrow not being correct, the student doesn't know any differently and just changes it.

I noticed the arrow was off yesterday at one point and the reason was that after a tie up, we had an arrow change. But the coach had the kids reverse the arrow back, claiming the arrow shouldn't have changed because the ensuing TI was stolen by the opposing team. So the coach, in a 19-4 game at quarter (though the score shouldn't matter) was sure their team should have had the arrow because of this stolen pass earlier in the first quarter. "That's the way it was explained to us." Never heard of such a thing.

The arrow changes when the ball touches or is touched by someone inbounds. Doesn't say teammate or anything like that. I think we convinced the coach we knew what we were doing but you know how it can be talking to coaches sometimes.

What makes me mad is that I didn't even think to whack them with a T for touching the possession arrow without consenting the officials. Must be getting soft in my old age. Of course, I would have politely told the coach to bring that type of issue up to us first, and not handle it on their own.

Long post, someone enlighten me if we did something wrong. I realize there are violations/fouls that can occur during throw-ins and so forth, I have a decent handle on those.

[Nevadaref]

If the coach thinks that the AP arrow is incorrect, ask him if he'd like a timeout and you'll check on it for him. Otherwise, coach the arrow is staying the way it is.

Rule 5-8-4

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by buckrog64
In Iowa, the girls had adaptations from the NFHS rules, such as numbers on uniforms, coaches putting players back in who were previously unconscious and also when the PA changes on the throw in.

Just out of curiosity, what does Iowa do differently regarding numbers? What's the Iowa rule on an unconscious player? When does Iowa want the arrow to be reversed after an AP throw-in?

How do your rules differ from the NFHS?

[buckrog64]

Let's see: IGHSAU didn't require an NFHS mark on ball, didn't require physician signature to allow an unconscious player back into game, they changed PA when ball was given to thrower, 01, 02, 03 04, 05 were legal numbers, coin toss to begin game to determine possession and then AP from thereon, coaches couldn't get indirect Ts...stuff like that....I think almost all of that changed this year to reflect NFHS regs.

One item not changing is that in IGHSAU, the spaces below the block remain open on free throws. NFHS is opposite. There is a coaches box allowed; if the coach gets a T, they sit the rest of the game except as allowed. Kneeling is a T.

Those are most of them, i think. I think I'm clear on them.

[buckrog64]

01, 02, 03, 04, 05 are still legal according to the adaptation sheet. Change in correctable error timing. I think they're down to about five differences when there were 11.