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ref18 Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:17pm

Why don't we make this a group effort.

What answers do you disagree with and why?

1. N
2. N
3. Y
4. Y
5. Y
6. Y
7. Y
8. Y
9. N
10. Y
11. N
12. Y
13. N
14. Y
15. Y
16. Y
17. N
18. N
19. Y
20. N
21. N
22. N
23. Y
24. Y
25. Y
26. N
27. Y
28. N
29. Y
30. Y
31. Y
32. N
33. N
34. N
35. Y
36. N
37. Y
38. Y
39. Y
40. N
41. Y
42. N
43. N
44. Y
45. Y
46. Y
47. N
48. Y
49. N
50. Y
51. N
52. N
53. Y
54. Y
55. Y
56. N
57. Y
58. Y
59. Y
60. N
61. N
62. Y
63. N
64. N
65. Y
66. Y
67. N
68. Y
69. Y
70. Y
71. Y
72. N
73. N
74. Y
75. N
76. N
77. Y
78. Y
79. N
80. Y


Edited to change #63


[Edited by ref18 on Nov 4th, 2005 at 10:25 PM]

Dan_ref Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:23pm

I disagree with these:

N
Y
Y
Y
N
N
Y
N
Y
Y
Y
N

because I think they should be

Y
N
N
N
Y
Y
N
Y
N
N
N
Y

yankeesfan Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:18pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ref18
Why don't we make this a group effort.

What answers do you disagree with and why?

1. N
2. N
3. Y
4. Y
5. Y
6. Y
7. Y
8. Y
9. N
10. Y
11. N
12. Y
13. N
14. Y
15. Y
16. Y
17. N
18. N
19. Y
20. N
21. N
22. N
23. Y
24. Y
25. Y
26. N
27. Y
28. N
29. Y
30. Y
31. Y
32. N
33. N
34. N
35. Y
36. N
37. Y
38. Y
39. Y
40. N
41. Y
42. N
43. N
44. Y
45. Y
46. Y
47. N
48. Y
49. N
50. Y
51. N
52. N
53. Y
54. Y
55. Y
56. N
57. Y
58. Y
59. Y
60. N
61. N
62. Y
63. N
64. N
65. Y
66. Y
67. N
68. Y
69. Y
70. Y
71. Y
72. N
73. N
74. Y
75. N
76. N
77. Y
78. Y
79. N
80. Y


Edited to change #63


[Edited by ref18 on Nov 4th, 2005 at 10:25 PM]

what test are these answers to?

ChuckElias Fri Nov 04, 2005 11:28pm

Quote:

Originally posted by yankeesfan
what test are these answers to?
It's a test of the moderators' tolerance.

ref18 Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:25am

The IAABO refresher,

Only the first 80 questions though, I really could care less about the NC2A rules.

Jurassic Referee Sat Nov 05, 2005 12:57am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by yankeesfan
what test are these answers to?
It's a test of the moderators' tolerance.

Gee, Chuck, you're a real live IAABO Board interpreter. You mean that you wouldn't post your test answers on the internet? :D

ref18 Sat Nov 05, 2005 02:02am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by yankeesfan
what test are these answers to?
It's a test of the moderators' tolerance.

I never said they were correct, how do you know I didn't just post all the incorrect answers, just to screw the lazy pricks that snipe the answers without doing work??

That's the thing about the internet, you never know the validity of what's posted.

Jurassic Referee Sat Nov 05, 2005 07:20am

Quote:

Originally posted by ref18
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I never said they were correct, how do you know I didn't just post all the incorrect answers, just to screw <font color = red>the lazy pricks that snipe the answers without doing work</font>??

[/B][/QUOTE]Now that's hilarious. :D

jallen Sat Nov 05, 2005 02:27pm

where can I get a copy?
 
Hi
Where can I get a copy of the NCAA refresher exam?
Thanks
JA

RefLarry Sat Nov 05, 2005 02:40pm

I disagree with your #75. Team A scores and before the throw-in in complete by Team B,A-2 is charged with an intentional personal foul near the end line.Team B is not in the bonus. Official awards team B two free throws and rules team B's throw-in is now a designated spot throw-in. Is the official correct?

Case play 7.5.7 SITUATION D states if foul is intentional (or flagrant) on A near the end line.Two free throws(with the lane cleared).Team B will then have a designated spot throw-in on the end line.
It's a designated spot throw-in (at the spot closest to where the foul happened) because the foul that was committed was not a common foul
This was a rule change (well the committee said that it was an editorial change last season. Prior to that the team could run the end line.
Now we don't let them.
(Credit to prior post 23018 from ChuckElias ,mdray ,and Nevadaref.)





RefLarry Sat Nov 05, 2005 07:29pm

I disagree with your answer for #57. While the ball is in the air on a jump ball to start the game,A-2 intentionally fouls B-2. Official instructs the scorer to set the arrow toward team A's basket when the ball is at the dispoal of B-2 for the first free throw. Is the official correct?


Casebook play 6.4.1SitE(c): During the jump ball to start the game,after the ball is tossed A1 intentionally fouls B1. When is the possession arrow set?
RULING: The arrow is pointed in the direction of A's basket when a player of B has the ball or it is at the thrower's disposal for the throw-in following the free throws.
(Credit to :Jurassic Referee thread http://www.officialforum.com/thread/22658 )

I have other answers I disagree with and I am working on them.



RefLarry Sat Nov 05, 2005 07:41pm

I disagree with #15.A-1's pass to A-2 in the frontcourt is deflected by A-2 and hits the official who is standing on the division line.A-2 catches the ball in the frontcourt. Official rules this a backcourt violation. Is the official correct?
Yes, the official is correct.

1) Team A had team control.
2) The ball had attained FC status.
3) Team A was last to touch the ball before it went into the BC.
4) Team A was first to touch the ball after it went into the BC.

4-4-4: "A ball which touches a player or an official is the same as the ball touching the floor at that individual's location."

Credit to those who posted on Thread:
http://www.officialforum.com/thread/22651




RefLarry Sat Nov 05, 2005 08:07pm

I disagree on #41. "Team B scores. A1's throw-in is batted back out of bounds over the end line. Official awards the ball back to team A and rules Team A still has the priviledge of running the end line. Is the official correct?

The questions does not say who batted the ball but lets assume B batted it out of bounds.

I say NO. 7.5.7 Situation B (c) Throw-in spots" B legally contacted the ball and subsequently hit it out of bounds,ending the throw-in. Team A is awarded a designated spot throw-in on the end line.

ref18 Sat Nov 05, 2005 08:33pm

Quote:

Originally posted by RefLarry
I disagree on #41. "Team B scores. A1's throw-in is batted back out of bounds over the end line. Official awards the ball back to team A and rules Team A still has the priviledge of running the end line. Is the official correct?

The questions does not say who batted the ball but lets assume B batted it out of bounds.

I say NO. 7.5.7 Situation B (c) Throw-in spots" B legally contacted the ball and subsequently hit it out of bounds,ending the throw-in. Team A is awarded a designated spot throw-in on the end line.

Any violation which would give the ball back to A with an endline throw in gives them the ability to run the endline.

I don't have a rule reference, but I know that's how it is. My books are somewhere where I'm not.

Camron Rust Sat Nov 05, 2005 09:03pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ref18
Quote:

Originally posted by RefLarry
I disagree on #41. "Team B scores. A1's throw-in is batted back out of bounds over the end line. Official awards the ball back to team A and rules Team A still has the priviledge of running the end line. Is the official correct?

The questions does not say who batted the ball but lets assume B batted it out of bounds.

I say NO. 7.5.7 Situation B (c) Throw-in spots" B legally contacted the ball and subsequently hit it out of bounds,ending the throw-in. Team A is awarded a designated spot throw-in on the end line.

Any violation which would give the ball back to A with an endline throw in gives them the ability to run the endline.

I don't have a rule reference, but I know that's how it is. My books are somewhere where I'm not.

That is not correct. To be able to run the endline, the violation or foul must occur before the throwin ends.

Violations or fouls that occur after the throwin ends are always spot throwins (if there is to be a throwin at all).

Consider this case....A1 throws the ball in. A2 catches and then dribbles up to top of the key where B2 then knocks the ball away such that it goes OOB on the endline. What kind of throwin do we have? Designated spot. Now, move that incident back towards the endline. Any different becasue of the location? No...spot throwin. Now change it to B knocking it directly OOB off the throwin. Still no different. Why would this be any different than A touching/dribbling it first? It's not.


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