Correctable errors

SamIAm · #1 (**permalink**) Wed Nov 02, 2005, 12:49pm

This is a difficult question to word (for me anyway).

For a correctable error to be corrected, an official must be aware of the error to correct it. (Basic but neccessary for this question). The scorer and timer are officials. Does their knowledge of a correctable error meet the requirement of an official's knowledge even though the court official may not be aware of a correctable situation until past the deadball/liveball limitation?

IREFU2 · #2 (**permalink**) Wed Nov 02, 2005, 12:50pm

I would say yes. They are part of the officiating crew as well. A good table is the best thing in the world!

ThickSkin · #3 (**permalink**) Wed Nov 02, 2005, 01:04pm

The majority of the correctable errors I have witnessed (thank god I haven't been a part of one.. knocking on my desk) the table has alerted the officials of the error.

ChuckElias · #4 (**permalink**) Wed Nov 02, 2005, 02:09pm

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Originally posted by SamIAm
Does their knowledge of a correctable error meet the requirement of an official's knowledge even though the court official may not be aware of a correctable situation until past the deadball/liveball limitation?

I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. Are you asking whether it can still be corrected after the second live ball since the timer recognized the error before that?

If that's what you're asking, the answer is no. The error must be corrected before the first dead ball becomes live after the clock has properly started. If the scorer knew about it, but didn't tell the officials in time, tough luck.

SamIAm · #5 (**permalink**) Wed Nov 02, 2005, 02:16pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias

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Originally posted by SamIAm
Does their knowledge of a correctable error meet the requirement of an official's knowledge even though the court official may not be aware of a correctable situation until past the deadball/liveball limitation?

I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. Are you asking whether it can still be corrected after the second live ball since the timer recognized the error before that?

If that's what you're asking, the answer is no. The error must be corrected before the first dead ball becomes live after the clock has properly started. If the scorer knew about it, but didn't tell the officials in time, tough luck.

You hit it on the head Chuck. A timer or scorer recognizes the error, but can't or doesn't get the court officials attention until after the second live ball.

Love this Game · #6 (**permalink**) Wed Nov 02, 2005, 02:20pm

I have learned that if you make your table feel like part of your crew, they will work there butt off.

ChuckElias · #7 (**permalink**) Wed Nov 02, 2005, 02:31pm

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they will work there butt off.

They will work where butt off?

jritchie · #8 (**permalink**) Wed Nov 02, 2005, 02:42pm

I knew we couldn't make it a day without an appearance from "GRAMMAR GUY"

rainmaker · #9 (**permalink**) Wed Nov 02, 2005, 02:59pm

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Originally posted by SamIAm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias

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Originally posted by SamIAm
Does their knowledge of a correctable error meet the requirement of an official's knowledge even though the court official may not be aware of a correctable situation until past the deadball/liveball limitation?

I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. Are you asking whether it can still be corrected after the second live ball since the timer recognized the error before that?

If that's what you're asking, the answer is no. The error must be corrected before the first dead ball becomes live after the clock has properly started. If the scorer knew about it, but didn't tell the officials in time, tough luck.

You hit it on the head Chuck. A timer or scorer recognizes the error, but can't or doesn't get the court officials attention until after the second live ball.

It has to be not only recognized but also addressed. The timer/scorer must yell, buzz, jump up and down or whatever, to see to it that the error is dealt with. It's okay for them to wait until during that first dead ball. Then they should make noise until the floor refs deal with it.