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Old Tue Oct 25, 2005, 07:48am
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Travelling Question: A1 gains possession of the ball with one knee on the floor. A1 lifts knee and stands up. Different answer in NCAA than NFHS?
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Old Tue Oct 25, 2005, 07:55am
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Travelling Question: A1 gains possession of the ball with one knee on the floor. A1 lifts knee and stands up. Different answer in NCAA than NFHS?
I don't think so.
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Old Tue Oct 25, 2005, 08:53am
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Taking the NCAA test, huh, Jeff? Me, too. In the test, it specifically says "without moving the pivot foot". I think that's supposed to be a clue that it's legal. But I don't know for sure. In HS, definitely a violation. In NCAA, I would have thought that it was also a violation. But with the way it's worded in the question, I'm not 100% sure.
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Taking the NCAA test, huh, Jeff? Me, too. In the test, it specifically says "without moving the pivot foot". I think that's supposed to be a clue that it's legal. But I don't know for sure. In HS, definitely a violation. In NCAA, I would have thought that it was also a violation. But with the way it's worded in the question, I'm not 100% sure.
I think it's legal also. The AR does say it's virtually impossible to fall down without moving the pivot foot, it does not mention standing up.
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Old Tue Oct 25, 2005, 09:19am
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Taking the NCAA test, huh, Jeff? Me, too. In the test, it specifically says "without moving the pivot foot". I think that's supposed to be a clue that it's legal. But I don't know for sure. In HS, definitely a violation. In NCAA, I would have thought that it was also a violation. But with the way it's worded in the question, I'm not 100% sure.
I think it's legal also. The AR does say it's virtually impossible to fall down without moving the pivot foot, it does not mention standing up.
Well, except for the sentence that reads, "When a player rises to his or her feet while holding the ball, it is traveling." (second to last sentence).

Maybe the AR is wrong, or maybe I'm interpreting is incorrectly.

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Old Tue Oct 25, 2005, 09:22am
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Taking the NCAA test, huh, Jeff? Me, too. In the test, it specifically says "without moving the pivot foot". I think that's supposed to be a clue that it's legal. But I don't know for sure. In HS, definitely a violation. In NCAA, I would have thought that it was also a violation. But with the way it's worded in the question, I'm not 100% sure.
I think it's legal also. The AR does say it's virtually impossible to fall down without moving the pivot foot, it does not mention standing up.
Well, except for the sentence that reads, "When a player rises to his or her feet while holding the ball, it is traveling." (second to last sentence).

Maybe the AR is wrong, or maybe I'm interpreting is incorrectly.

Isn't it possible to be on 1 knee & have both feet on the floor?
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Old Tue Oct 25, 2005, 09:26am
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where is this test at, online???

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Taking the NCAA test, huh, Jeff? Me, too. In the test, it specifically says "without moving the pivot foot". I think that's supposed to be a clue that it's legal. But I don't know for sure. In HS, definitely a violation. In NCAA, I would have thought that it was also a violation. But with the way it's worded in the question, I'm not 100% sure.
could you give me the address for this test if you have it on line?? thanks
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Old Tue Oct 25, 2005, 09:54am
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I could, J, but you couldn't view it without a username and password. Sorry.
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Old Tue Oct 25, 2005, 10:02am
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no problem.....chuck..

i think this situation would be legal providing the pivot foot does not move, since it says in the a.r. that if the player falls to a knee and moves the pivot foot it's a violation.....so saying that i would say the opposite is true as well...rising off of a knee without moving the pivot foot should be deemed legal!!
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Old Wed Oct 26, 2005, 01:25pm
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It's a walk, 99% sure.
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Old Wed Oct 26, 2005, 09:13pm
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Not a walk NCAA

Per the A.R. if pivot foot does not move a player can go down to one knee. Thus I agree with jritchie that you could rise from one knee if pivot foot does not move.
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Old Thu Oct 27, 2005, 12:19pm
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This is *not* traveling.

100% sure, because I missed it on the test
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