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[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Texas Aggie
I can line up a dozen or more 300 pounders, just from one or two area high schools, and likely 50 from Texas (age 17-25) easy that can beat you up and down the court.

Bring 'em on, Aggie. I seriously doubt they could beat me from endline to endline, but now that there's more than one voice out there proclaiming the virtues of 300 pounders, I'm actually kind of curious as to whether they could.

I think you're just showing off a little of that big Texas-sized pride in your national sport.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by Texas Aggie
Chuck, 2 things:

1. Unless you run a 4.8/40 or better, I can line up a dozen or more 300 pounders, just from one or two area high schools, and likely 50 from Texas (age 17-25) easy that can beat you up and down the court. Not a slap at you; they can beat me too!

Big hat, no cattle!

You're trying to tell us that you've got 12 or more 300 pounders from just 1 or 2 high schools in your area that can run a 4.8/40? Nothing personal, but that's just an immense load of Texas doo-doo. In the 2005 NFL Draft Combine for projected draft picks-- graduating college seniors iow-- the average time for the positions where you're gonna find the 300 pounders- i.e. offensive linemen and defensive tackles- the average times recorded in the 40 for offensive linemen was 5.2 to 5.3 seconds, and the average times for defensive tackles was 5.1 to 5.25 seconds. Any time under 5.0 seconds for an offensive lineman and 4.9 seconds for a defensive tackle was rated SUPERB. And you're trying to tell me that you've got a dozen local 300 pound high school players that can already run better times in the 40 than 99% of the drafted NFL players - college seniors- at that weight? Get serious.

Methinks maybe your local high school should apply for the next open NFL franchise available. It's probably got enough players now to give it one of the greatest lines ever in the NFL.

http://www.geocities.com/epark/raide...l-combine.html

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Sep 30th, 2005 at 09:57 AM]

[BBall_Junkie]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
[B]

Originally posted by Texas Aggie
Chuck, 2 things:

1. Unless you run a 4.8/40 or better, I can line up a dozen or more 300 pounders, just from one or two area high schools, and likely 50 from Texas (age 17-25) easy that can beat you up and down the court. Not a slap at you; they can beat me too!

Big hat, no cattle!

You're trying to tell us that you've got 12 or more 300 pounders from just 1 or 2 high schools in your area that can run a 4.8/40? Nothing personal, but that's just an immense load of Texas doo-doo. In the 2005 NFL Draft Combine for projected draft picks-- graduating college seniors iow-- the average time for the positions where you're gonna find the 300 pounders- i.e. offensive linemen and defensive tackles- the average times recorded in the 40 for offensive linemen was 5.2 to 5.3 seconds, and the average times for defensive tackles was 5.1 to 5.25 seconds. Any time under 5.0 seconds for an offensive lineman and 4.9 seconds for a defensive tackle was rated SUPERB. And you're trying to tell me that you've got a dozen local 300 pound high school players that can already run better times in the 40 than 99% of the drafted NFL players - college seniors- at that weight? Get serious.

Methinks maybe your local high school should apply for the next open NFL franchise available. It's probably got enough players now to give it one of the greatest lines ever in the NFL.

http://www.geocities.com/epark/raide...l-combine.html

[Edited by BBall_Junkie on Sep 30th, 2005 at 04:34 PM]

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by BBall_Junkie

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Lastly, the NBA has very strict requirements for their officiating staff and weight/ body fat ratios are individually established for each ref and monitored. How many overweight officials do you see calling NBA games. The answer is ZERO because they have these requirements. Obviously it is not illegal.

[/B][/QUOTE]NFL officials are constantly weighed and monitored too.

I think it's more the case of an employer having the right to set reasonable expectations and standards for their employees.

A good case in point might be the NBA currently talking about installing a dress code for their players when they're representing their teams. Do anybody have the absolute right to dress as they want to? Not on their employer's dime.

As long as no one is being unreasonable in their expectations, it shouldn't be a problem. A good example of this is the "aging" official. If an official can't keep up with the play any longer, your assignor/association has to have the right to keep that official away from games that they can no longer physically handle. That concept isn't that much different than keeping officials away from certain levels of games due to their not being able to keep up due to excess weight. If they can keep up, however.....

[Rizzo21]

Originally posted by BBall_Junkie

LOL. I gotta side with JR and Chuck on this one. Also being from Texas I wanna know where this HS is. I might hafta go make plans and go out to see them tonight if they are in my area! That would be a lot of value for my $3.00 ticket!

With regard to the illegal aspect of this argument, it is bogus. Being overweight is not a protected class and therefore is not a reason to sue for not getting a job. Age, Race, gender, sexual orientation (in some states), religion, ethnic background are protected and provide grounds for discriminatory practices.

Now one might argue that it falls under ADA, by which an "employer" (remember we are individual contractors in most places and no one has to use my services if they don't want me, i.e. coaches scratchlists here in Texas) must provied reasonable accomodation... Gordon, tell me what this would be in the area of officiating, an electric scooter? a seg-way? what? By the way, even though this is a sarcastic solutions, they are unreasonbel due to cost.

Lastly, the NBA has very strict requirements for their officiating staff and weight/ body fat ratios are individually established for each ref and monitored. How many overweight officials do you see calling NBA games. The answer is ZERO because they have these requirements. Obviously it is not illegal.

I am so tired of issues like this coming up and people screaming that is illegal. Come on

Ah, isn't it interesting that good research beats good B.S. every time!

[BBall_Junkie]

went to edit my post for the bad grammar and spelling and inadvertantly deleted the whole thing.

Luckily Rizzo was kind enough to quote my post thus safe guarding me from my own incompetance