New NBA Collective Bargaining Agreement

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by JRutledge

Of course you find it discriminatory, you always find any comment that someone makes about giving people of color a chance discriminatory. Of course you think that all people of color cannot do the job, why else would you get upset? I guess we can play the game, we just cannot make and decisions around the game. I especially know you would get upset by my comments about a game where African-Americans overwhelmingly dominate. I guess Black people should just be happy with their place and not expect more in an industry where opportunity is supposed to be ramped. Next thing you are going to tell me a Black teacher should not expect to have success in a school district any more than the general population.

You've written some stupid posts in your life but that's your all time worst.

I have never made any such statements, either verbally or on this or any other board and I defy your to find such a statement. Once again, you prove that you are indeed the biggest idiot on any Internet discussion board in the world. You're a disgrace to every black person that I've ever met or corresponded with. The best thing that you can do for all of us is to just shut your ****ing mouth.

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My apologies to anyone else who offended by this post but I don't appreciate this type of response, when all I was doing was simply discussing an issue. This man is a fool and heaven help me, I will never reply to one of his posts again.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by JRutledge

Of course you find it discriminatory, you always find any comment that someone makes about giving people of color a chance discriminatory. Of course you think that all people of color cannot do the job, why else would you get upset? I guess we can play the game, we just cannot make and decisions around the game. I especially know you would get upset by my comments about a game where African-Americans overwhelmingly dominate. I guess Black people should just be happy with their place and not expect more in an industry where opportunity is supposed to be ramped. Next thing you are going to tell me a Black teacher should not expect to have success in a school district any more than the general population.

Peace

Sad.....but absolutely typical.

If you disagree with me, you must be a racist.

Same old,same old.....been reading it for years....but it's still sad.

Every thread that starts to discuss race on this forum should be sh*t-canned immediately. They all end up exactly the same way.

[JRutledge]

Funny thing about my post, I never used the word racism or racist at all. I guess if your conscious is not right, that is the logical conclusion you will come to.

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by JRutledge
Funny thing about my post, I never used the word racism or racist at all. I guess if your conscious is not right, that is the logical conclusion you will come to.

Yes, folks, I'm a racist too.

No, I guess my conscious isn't right. I find people like you despicable. Note that the term "like you" refers to your attitude, not your skin color.

Sad!

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
No, I guess my conscious isn't right.

Maybe you should fade away into Bolivian.

[Camron Rust]

Originally posted by JRutledge
Of course you find it discriminatory, you always find any comment that someone makes about giving people of color a chance discriminatory.

I'm puzzled how you find taking opportunities from one race and giving them to another discriminatory but not the reverse. You seem to be saying that an African-American should be hired just because their skin color and not based on the merits. Explain that to me. Just because a black person is not hire for any given jobs doesn't mean it is because of race. It could be any number of reasons...but it is so lazy to jump on the racism bandwagon. Pitiful.

Originally posted by JRutledge
Of course you think that all people of color cannot do the job, why else would you get upset? I guess we can play the game, we just cannot make and decisions around the game. I especially know you would get upset by my comments about a game where African-Americans overwhelmingly dominate. I guess Black people should just be happy with their place and not expect more in an industry where opportunity is supposed to be ramped. Next thing you are going to tell me a Black teacher should not expect to have success in a school district any more than the general population.

Peace

Certainly, black should expect more...fairly...not handed to them...as so often seems the expectation.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by Camron Rust

I'm puzzled how you find taking opportunities from one race and giving them to another discriminatory but not the reverse. You seem to be saying that an African-American should be hired just because their skin color and not based on the merits. Explain that to me. Just because a black person is not hire for any given jobs doesn't mean it is because of race. It could be any number of reasons...but it is so lazy to jump on the racism bandwagon. Pitiful.

It puzzles me how people read things they want to. I did not say "just because." I clearly gave and example of someone getting hired and they did not go through the ranks or work in any capacity at the job they were ultimately hired at. A person of color that had more experience actually working in the front office was passed over by someone that just called games on the radio and TV every now and then. I can look at the NFL and see the many recycled coaches that have not one anything. Then the Black NFL coaches like Dennis Erickson get hired and Denny Green is passed over. Denny Green went to the playoffs every year practically and almost played for the Super Bowl if his Hall of Fame kicker would not have missed his only FG all season. Erickson proved that he was a bad coach in Seattle and really proved it in San Fran. Now I do not know what papers you read or if you pay attention to these things, but there were many media members a little skeptical about Erickson and his hire to the 49ers. This issue was talked about a lot on major media outlets and even the NFL had to put in a policy to change the way the NFL did things as it related to hiring. You cannot tell me that people that can be successful on the field cannot have similar success when given an opportunity. Let us not forget that there was a time when in this country when people of color were not allowed to play many pro sports or there was an open quota to limit the numbers. When given the opportunity, not only did many excel, they ended up being the greatest players of all time. Some of us just want the opportunity to prove we can be just as bad as anyone else. Sorry that I expect more opportunity for more than the superstars in the league. We all know the only reason MJ got the opportunity to have his role with the Wizards was because he was one of the greatest players of all time. If he had the same success of John Paxon, there is no way in hell he would have been put in that position. Even Joe Dumars had to learn his role and the front office business by holding other positions in the Piston's organization. Then after some time in the front office, he was given the reigns to the organization.

I find it interesting I can hear all these Caucasian males complain when officials get the opportunity they do not deserve, whether it is based on qualifications or experience. But when someone of color raises a similar issue of qualification of a white male, then God forbid that issue get raised or concerns are openly made clear. I have sat in meetings and heard officials specifically question the ability of a state final official because he came from the Chicago Public League. No one including myself said a word. Then when the tables are turned, the all hell breaks lose. I guess we should know our place and not rattle the good people who feed us.

Originally posted by JRutledge
Certainly, black should expect more...fairly...not handed to them...as so often seems the expectation.

Are you saying that Black people get things handed to them? I guess that is why the NBA players should get a real job. All those millions were handed to them, they did not earn it.

Peace