The Larry Brown quote

[canuckrefguy]

The bottom line is the Spurs didn't show up to play.

The Pistons played aggressive, hard, good defense. Was there contact let go? Yup. On both ends of the floor. The fouls were almost dead even - so it's not like the officials were nailing one team and not the other.

SA, most notably Tim Duncan and Ginobili (who's obviously playing hurt) played with zero emotion, passion, and joy. Rather than get mad when Detroit started whupping their a**es, they just let it happen. Popovich himself said it was the worst playoff performance in NBA history.

NBA refereeing is supposed to be the pinnacle of "advantage/disadvantage" officiating - and I think Game Four was a good demonstration of that.

[antiref]

I understand the is difficult to support any conspiracy theory, but for me is clear that Miami series against Detroit and the 2 first games in San Antonio, were officiated in a way that could help people start talking about it.

I always say that when referees are doing their job, they past unnoticed, and of course this has not been the case. The sports is about players not referees, so if they make the right calls and understand that the stars are the players, we shouldn’t be talking about them.

Terrible understanding of a charge foul and a blocking foul has been the common mistake that I has seen.

and YES It’s mental, and frustration because of bad calls is common in good and bad players. Good players will overcome from that but it could cost you a couple of games and in a series of 7, referees should be doing a better job. Everybody makes mistakes but, are you agree about referees making frequently mistakes and everybody have to remain quiet (this doesn’t happens in our regular jobs?)

Regards,

antiref

[RookieDude]

Originally posted by antiref
referees should be doing a better job.

Buddy,
You come in here with a name that suggests you are against referees and then start spouting off some mumbo jumbo crap that a third grader could have written better...what kind of responses do you expect to hear my friend?

Edit: BTW...mick...feel free to delete my post right along with this dyspeptic antiref.

[Edited by RookieDude on Jun 19th, 2005 at 03:32 AM]

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by antiref
I always say ...

And you are...

....who?

[LoudBottom]

Wasn't me. I don't consider myself anti-ref. Unless it's a Ed Hightower discussion.

[LoudBottom]

While I'm still here...

Can I ask (of officials) who watched the first four games of this past series.

In your opinions, were the first 2 games in San Antonio officiated different than the 2 in Detroit? If so, why?

LB

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by antiref
I understand the is difficult to support any conspiracy theory, but for me is clear that Miami series against Detroit and the 2 first games in San Antonio, were officiated in a way that could help people start talking about it.

I always say that when referees are doing their job, they past unnoticed, and of course this has not been the case. The sports is about players not referees, so if they make the right calls and understand that the stars are the players, we shouldn’t be talking about them.

Terrible understanding of a charge foul and a blocking foul has been the common mistake that I has seen.

and YES It’s mental, and frustration because of bad calls is common in good and bad players. Good players will overcome from that but it could cost you a couple of games and in a series of 7, referees should be doing a better job. Everybody makes mistakes but, are you agree about referees making frequently mistakes and everybody have to remain quiet (this doesn’t happens in our regular jobs?)

Regards,

antiref

Well, a Detroit fanboy shows up. Usually they don't slither into our sight when their team has just won a few games.I kinda expected at this time of this series that it would been a SA fanboy instead showing up with the usual mindless crap.

Care to tell us about your vast knowledge of the block/charge rule that allows you to make such a judgement? How many games have you actually officiated and at what levels?

Yes, the officials are out to get YOUR team!

No, it doesn't really matter which team is your's. The referees are still out to get them.

That pretty much cover it for you, fanboy?

Soon to be gone forever. Lah me.

Regards, Anti-antiref.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by LoudBottom
While I'm still here...

Can I ask (of officials) who watched the first four games of this past series.

NO!

Now go away.

[canuckrefguy]

Originally posted by LoudBottom
While I'm still here...

Can I ask (of officials) who watched the first four games of this past series.

In your opinions, were the first 2 games in San Antonio officiated different than the 2 in Detroit? If so, why?

LB

Hey....aren't you forgetting something?

Originally posted by LoudBottom

Zebraref: "Now go away fanboy."

Done and Done

You could at least live up to your promise....

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by drothamel
I don't know, Mark, it may be more of a non-sequitur.

If this board starts going Latin on me, I'm through.

That goes without saying - everything that fanboys say on this board is non sequitur.

[Mark Dexter]

Originally posted by mick

Sparky,
Your point is well taken.

With officials, one team will lose.
Without officials, both teams lose.

mick

And with Bud Selig as commissioner, neither team wins . . .

[BktBallRef]

I can't believe that the moderators of this site will allow a user to post under the name "antiref."

This guy needs to go and in a damn hurry. If he truly wants to discuss officiating, then he should select a more appropriate name and lose the dumbass "ref conspiracy theory."

[Edited by BktBallRef on Jun 22nd, 2005 at 10:00 AM]

[TigerBball]

I am not a ref, so disagree if you must, but seeing those types of views can enlighten a referee I would think. Especially someone new to being a ref. It shows that there are people out there so ignorant (Defence for instance) that they come up with these wild ideas about the way a game is being called. Now with that knowledge, you go out there and call the best game you can knowing only half the gym is going to be happy with you.

Also, it makes for some fun reading.

You also realize even NBA refs, supposedly the top of the ref game, get flack, so just call the game as best you can and move on, don't dwell.

[mick]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
I can't believe that the moderators of this site will allow a user to post under the name "antiref."

This guy needs to go and in a damn hurry. If he truly wants to discuss officiating, then he should select a more appropriate name and lose the dumbass "ref conspiracy theory."

Ouch!
Been hit by a stone thrown from the Research Triangle.
That's gonna leave a mark.
mick

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by rainmaker

And you are...

....who?

She's Auntie Ref.

Her live in boyfriend Uncle Cletus posts here sometimes.