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Old Fri Jun 17, 2005, 12:47am
JRutledge JRutledge is offline
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Originally posted by LoudBottom
Well, where to start...

I'll first say the arrogance is amazing. Not just in this thread, but in many others as well. There are some amazing sources of knowledge here and lots of cool information... but man, there are some truly self-righteous individuals here. I understand the knowledge and confidence you must emit to be a respected and effective referee. I do not diminish and understand that many must put on the uniform and the game face that comes with it. Many of us need to do the same things in our real lives. I made a gamble coming here hoping that the Power Aura was something that officials can turn off and on once you leave the court or film room. Fishing through these threads for knowledge has left me blown away. The way some people get off in here discussing T's and their point of views on rule judgements is downright mindblowing. I wish I had seen many of these people before they starting officiating. I'm dying to know if this is something that they turned into... or is this something that they gravitated naturally towards because of the power. Some of these people just seem downright mean. I digress...

Let me address some stuff thrown at me.

Jurassic Referee: "News Flash:...officials are human...They will make mistakes" then you say "NBA officials however will NEVER make a bad call on purpose due to a bias against a particular team or player."

Okay, which is it? Humans are not perfect, yes? I totally agree... they make mistakes, totally honest mistakes. But to say that these people are above emotion, stress, and personal feelings? Every single one???? They never ever breakdown and slip up? After going through these boards and seeing the individuals who are totally emotional with respects to T's and coach-player-fan interactions... that's a real tough reality to try and swallow.
Of course it is hard for you to swallow. You are not an official. You have no idea what it takes to be an official. You have no idea what our job is. Our job is not to root for a team. Our job is to do a job and do that to the best of our ability. If the guys at the NBA do not their job, they do not have a job. No different from coaches and players at that level. They also make much less money. They do not have a guaranteed 20 million dollar contract. In some cases they do not make more than 5 figures. If you think they want to lose their job because of what a fan, coach or player thinks (when every game is taped and evaluated) you really think. If players and coaches do not want to get T'd up, then they need to shut up. If you speed on a road, the police have the right to give you a ticket for your driving. If you do not want to get ticketed for speeding, you do not speed.

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Originally posted by LoudBottom
"Pistons fans think the officials are horrible and biased when their team loses"

Please try and generalize a little more. There are many of us who have lived the better parts of our lives on as court as well... If your saying that everyone who isn't a ref really has no clue what's going on... that's not true at all. There are many of us who love the game so much and to insinuate that all of us out here have no insight or objectivity is really disrepectful. For every Bill Walton, Doug Collins, or Steven A Smith out there spewing crap there are a thousand of us who know better.
Please, what part of the game do you understand? You probably think "over the back" is a foul. You probably think "moving screen" is illegal. You probably have most of your rules knowledge based on what Walton, Collins and even Steven A. Smith says. I hate to break it to you, but so did I before I became an official. Then when I actually read the rulebook and the casebook and the many interpretations, I found out I did not know what I thought I did.

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Originally posted by LoudBottom
DBLREF: "You seem surprised. Exactly what reaction did you expect from an official's forum?"

Well, like I said earlier. I was hoping that officials were people too. People that once they take off the uniform were nice engaging sorts that might actually be able to discuss public fallacies with a non-ref. I should have read through a load of threads first... I'm sure I would have picked up on the vibe earlier and not wasted everyone's time.
You are not as bright as I thought you were. For one thing, any person that is into something "does not just take off their uniform." I can tell you a teacher does not stop think of education because they are not in the classroom. Or a doctor throws away all his training and expertise because they are out of the hospital. People who officiate are not any different. See I do not watch the NBA or any sport with the same eyes anymore. I watch the game as an official. I look at the game as an official. I watch their mechanics, signals and calls for understanding what took place. But you are not an official, so you have no idea.

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Originally posted by LoudBottom
Zebraref: "Now go away fanboy."

Done and Done

Actually I think that is the best advice you have received. You should learn how to listen.

Peace
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