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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 02:34pm
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When does a 52-51 victory go into the books as a 59-57 overtime loss?

See Daily Herald's Basketball Focus 2009 | St. Charles East loses in strange fashion
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 02:39pm
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Interesting. Bob, was this your game?
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 02:40pm
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Looks like the officials did it the right way, given what they had to work with.
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 02:48pm
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Looks like the officials did it the right way, given what they had to work with.
I try to make a habit to ask the official scorer to triple check their math before the ball is tipped for overtime. That way, if a discrepancy is found, you don't run into this situation halfway through overtime.

That would have prevented the error in this situation.
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 02:50pm
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Yeah, but then you would have had a different problem. You would have had to inform one team that while they thought they were heading to overtime, the game is over and they lose.

Have them triple check the score at some point in that last minute, so you avoid it even sooner.
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 02:51pm
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I try to make a habit to ask the official scorer to triple check their math before the ball is tipped for overtime. That way, if a discrepancy is found, you don't run into this situation halfway through overtime.

That would have prevented the error in this situation.
While I wasn't the R, I was on the game. The R did go over to the table before OT and had a long (but not long enough, or else too long) conversation.
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 02:54pm
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Brings up a point...

When I'm R, at halftime, and towards the end of the game when I get a chance to get over there I ask the official scorer: "Is everything ok with the book?"

Is that all I can do? Could I ask a better question? What do you ask?
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 09:09pm
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Looks like the officials did it the right way, given what they had to work with.
From reading the article, I'm going to disagree, but I'll ask Bob for clarification since it was his game.

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While I wasn't the R, I was on the game. The R did go over to the table before OT and had a long (but not long enough, or else too long) conversation.
Bob, from the article it seems that the home book had the proper number of points for the home team in regulation, namely 52. I assume that this was the official book, and thus the official score. The fact that the scoreboard and the visiting book incorrectly displayed 51 shouldn't matter, right?
So it seems that what was done during the extra period was that the scoreboard and the visiting book were changed to reflect what was already in the home/official book. If that is the case, and the official book was NOT changed at that point, then I would say that the game should have been terminated at that point. This is different from changing the official book at some point in OT, which would cause the game to continue. In your case, had I been the R, I would have declared the home team the winner in regulation and filed a report with the state association/league.

Can you clarify exactly what took place, even though you were not the R?
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Old Thu Jan 14, 2010, 02:51pm
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Sounds like poor communication between the scorebooks, scoreboard/timer, & officials.

Just my 1 cent.
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