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TubbyRules Sun Mar 27, 2005 09:23pm

...but, as a lowly fan, I will speak my thoughts, as a fan.

If the clock reads 19:59 in the game and there is a foul, it should be called.

If there is :01 left in the game and there is a foul, it should be called.

Sparks got fouled, my friend who was at the game said an official blew his whistle when he shot and was fouled, watched to see if it went in, then did not make the call once it did...

I understand the intent of letting players decide the outcome, but, the Mich. State player decided to contend the shot and fouled him on it...the whistle blew, and there was no call after it went in.

Where is the justice for Chuck Hayes?

canuckrefguy Sun Mar 27, 2005 09:29pm

The whistle went?

Really?

Anyone else (with TIVO) able to verify this?

I remember seeing one officials hand go up to signal the 3, but don't remember seeing any fists go up.

For the record, I don't think he was fouled. The guy went up, but the contact, I think, was caused just as much by Hayes as by the defender.

Sorry, Tubby, I've got no-call all the way....


ref18 Sun Mar 27, 2005 09:29pm

From the angle I saw on the TV, there was no foul.


Good No Call

blindzebra Sun Mar 27, 2005 09:29pm

You got beat, he did not get fouled, your friend did not see/hear a foul called, and it was a 2 point shot to boot...Your season is over now go away.

Mark Padgett Sun Mar 27, 2005 09:31pm

None of the officials raised their fists. There was no foul call. He was not fouled. Based on the replay, I would not have overruled the call on the floor that it was a three - and I was pulling for the Spartans.

JugglingReferee Sun Mar 27, 2005 09:31pm

Quote:

Originally posted by TubbyRules
I know I will get spanked for this...
Then why do you ask?

Quote:

Originally posted by TubbyRules
If the clock reads 19:59 in the game and there is a foul, it should be called.

If there is :01 left in the game and there is a foul, it should be called.

Hmm... are you Mark Cuban? :D

Quote:

Originally posted by TubbyRules
Sparks got fouled, my friend who was at the game said an official blew his whistle when he shot and was fouled, watched to see if it went in, then did not make the call once it did...

I understand the intent of letting players decide the outcome, but, the Mich. State player decided to contend the shot and fouled him on it...the whistle blew, and there was no call after it went in.

Your friend knows that this so called whistle was for what, how?

TubbyRules Sun Mar 27, 2005 09:34pm

what else would it have been for?


the banged around the rim like crazy because there was contact, it's physics

Jurassic Referee Sun Mar 27, 2005 09:35pm

Well, I think that it's all Karl Hess' fault!

Snake~eyes Sun Mar 27, 2005 09:37pm

You know guys, I thought I heard a whistle too actually, but Just blew it off.

JRutledge Sun Mar 27, 2005 09:38pm

TubbyRules,

Why was it a foul? Do you have a rule reference to back it up? Was it a foul because you say so? The Kentucky player went up and landed without a problem. If they called that foul, they sure as hell did not call that type of contact during other parts of the game (at least the times I watched).

You lost. It is over. Go away now.

Peace

ref18 Sun Mar 27, 2005 09:40pm

Quote:

Originally posted by TubbyRules
what else would it have been for?


the banged around the rim like crazy because there was contact, it's physics

I wouldn't exactly say he took the time to set up for this shot. It sorta looked like he threw it up, maybe that's why it banged around the rim, because he didn't set up.

There was no foul there, I agree with BlindZebra, it was a 2pt shot, you guys were lucky to get overtime. It was a good game, the officials did an amazing job and all the replies to your post are probably gonna sound like this one so don't get your hopes up.. You might wanna check out the post that warns about fanboys complaining, because that's the cycle this one's gonna follow.

Mark Padgett Sun Mar 27, 2005 09:46pm

Quote:

Originally posted by TubbyRules
what else would it have been for?


the banged around the rim like crazy because there was contact, it's physics

If you think the rules of Physics would prove that every ball that bangs around the rim is due to the shooter getting fouled, then your Physics teacher is dumber than your English teacher - if possible.

TubbyRules Sun Mar 27, 2005 09:54pm

my bad guys, i just watch alot of games, and wonder if Sparks had missed it, the call would have been made, and if it was...then, it's a shame it wasn't called when he made it.

I am proud of Tubby and these Cats...i feel horrible for Chuck.

Now go screw UL on Saturday, hehe

GO CATS!!!!!!!!!!!!

JRutledge Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:07pm

Quote:

Originally posted by TubbyRules
my bad guys, i just watch alot of games, and wonder if Sparks had missed it, the call would have been made, and if it was...then, it's a shame it wasn't called when he made it.


Wow, you sure are the expert. I guess we should defer to your expertise considering you "watch" basketball games.

Peace

TubbyRules Sun Mar 27, 2005 10:08pm

oh yeah, what about Rondo's second foul?

he was moving away from the basket, and the defender was moving under him...just watched it on replay

human error? i guess it happens, sucks for Chuck though


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