Final Four and NC Officials

[BktBallRef]

I'm watching the game for the second time. Some things I've noticed:

Officials - I don't know the officials by name. But the black official tossed the ball. The shorter, white official with the bald spot administered the throw-in to start the second half.

Fouls on Augustine - Only ONE of the fouls called on Augustine had him fouling May. He was called for a block on Felton, he hacked Felton on a drive and then hacked Manuel for a foul, before pushing M. Williams with both hands for his 5th.

Give the foul to someone else - On his 4th foul, someone made the remark that the foul could have been called on another Illinois player. Not true! Powell had LGP and was standing strong. Augustine simply reached for the ball and hacked Manuel across the arm. No reson to give the foul to anyone else.

Contact - The officials allowed a lot of body contact and were consistent with it all night. They allowed contact on layups, drives and screens. But, they also allowed May to move at will with the ball in the paint. Most of the fouls were called when defenders used their hands.

Screens - There were many times the screener moved and the Carolina defender just moved around the screener or the secondary defender easily picked up the opponent.. But there were definitely some illegal screens. For example, Williams hit a 3 at the 14 minute mark where Powell completely blocked Felton with an illegal screen. It got worse later in the second half but I guess since the allowed body contact all game, they didn't want to call illegal screens late in the game. Still not sure I agree with the reasoning though, as some were very obvious. It's a good thing John Chaney wasn't coaching.

Overall - They let the kids play and let them decide the game.

Finally - I've never seen so damn many commercials in all my life!!!

[Dan_ref]

Ed Corbett, John Cahill, Verne Harris

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by BktBallRef

Give the foul to someone else - On his 4th foul, someone made the remark that the foul could have been called on another Illinois player. Not true! Powell had LGP and was standing strong. Augustine simply reached for the ball and hacked Manuel across the arm. No reson to give the foul to anyone else.

Contact - The officials allowed a lot of body contact and were consistent with it all night. They allowed contact on layups, drives and screens. But, they also allowed May to move at will with the ball in the paint. Most of the fouls were called when defenders used their hands.

1. Agree. Augustine looked like he wanted that foul.

2. Tell ya the truth, I saw some iffy screeens in the first half, nothing worse than borderline. I didn't see anything in the second half that was anything different. I agree they called the obvious the entire game.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Ed Corbett, John Cahill, Verne Harris

I knew their names, just wasn't positive who was who.

[tomegun]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
I'm watching the game for the second time. Some things I've noticed:

Officials - I don't know the officials by name. But the black official tossed the ball. The shorter, white official with the bald spot administered the throw-in to start the second half.

Thank you. I knew for a fact Harris tossed the ball. I was playing close attention to him after the toss. Illinois won the toss, went to the left and Harris was Trail on the table side.

[brainbrian]

One thing I noticed watching the tournament was that the referees helped a lot of fallen players up off the floor and many other nice things like that.

[agmattbballref]

I notice that a number of officials do not stop when reporting to the table, they continue to walk while reporting their signal to the table. I was always taught to stop, get a window and report...is this an antiquated mechanic because seemingly all of the officials in the NCAA tend to report on the move...I would like to know the correct answer, so that I am able to do it right...last year when I attended camp the camp I attended was still teaching to stop and report. Thanks in advance for your valued advice.

[BktBallRef]

The NFHS mechanic is to stop.

That is not necessarily true in the NCAA.

[brainbrian]

In the NCAA the "reporting area" seems to be much bigger than NFHS mechanics state.

[TriggerMN]

NCAA officials are allowed to move while reporting fouls, is what I've been taught at camps. Also, to report fouls, officials do not need to go to the "rectangular box," as in NFHS mechanics. All they have to do is clear and report.

[tomegun]

Originally posted by TriggerMN
NCAA officials are allowed to move while reporting fouls, is what I've been taught at camps. Also, to report fouls, officials do not need to go to the "rectangular box," as in NFHS mechanics. All they have to do is clear and report.

It depends on the assigner. Fred Barakat doesn't want officials reporting on the move in the ACC, Colonial and Big South.

[BktBallRef]

Exactly. Which is why I wrote, "That is not necessarily true in the NCAA." Some assignors do have different requirements.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by TriggerMN
NCAA officials are allowed to move while reporting fouls, is what I've been taught at camps.

This is not true for men's games, I don't think. I've never heard that it's allowable. The women "walk-and-talk", NBA style; but not the guys.

There are, of course, officials who are well-enough established that they don't have to worry about any of their mechanics; and so they may report on the move. But, by the book, I don't think this is an option for most of us lowly D3 guys.

[agmattbballref]

Thanks Chuck,

I just wanted to make sure it was not some type of change I wasn't privileged to...I spend most of the time watching games, watching officials, in an effort to get better. I appreciate your willingness to share your knowledge and experience.

[The New Guy]

For those of you wondering who tossed for last Monday's game, checkout the "Leading Off" section of this week's Sports Illustrated (on the bottom right of the right page). It looks like it was Harris.