Foot on block during free throw

[womens_hoops]

Hi. Non-ref fan here trying to figure something out, and a half-hour of googling has come up empty, so i'm coming to the experts.

is there ever a time under any of the rules systems that a player can have her foot on the block during the free throw?

My understanding of the Men's NCAA rules is that the opponent of the shooter occupies the space between baseline and block, and he can't have his foot on the block. For women's, the lowest opponent occupies the space above the block, and she can't have her foot on the block.

What is the NFHS rule?

I vaguely recall that there was a proposal to change the NFHS rule last year (to match the NCAA women's, except you could have your foot on the block?) but it failed.

thanks much.

[tjones1]

Fed (NFHS):

You cannot have your foot on the block and you are correct about NCAA-M and NCAA-W.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by womens_hoops
Hi. Non-ref fan here trying to figure something out, and a half-hour of googling has come up empty, so i'm coming to the experts.

is there ever a time under any of the rules systems that a player can have her foot on the block during the free throw?

My understanding of the Men's NCAA rules is that the opponent of the shooter occupies the space between baseline and block, and he can't have his foot on the block. For women's, the lowest opponent occupies the space above the block, and she can't have her foot on the block.

What is the NFHS rule?

I vaguely recall that there was a proposal to change the NFHS rule last year (to match the NCAA women's, except you could have your foot on the block?) but it failed.

thanks much.

We get a few non-ref fans here every once in a while. Seldom are they as neutral as you. We like the way you did this. You're welcome here anytime.

[womens_hoops]

Thanks much. Definitely trying to be neutral -- trying to learn. I run a website for women's ball, and occasionally link to this board. Hoping to spread some knowledge to the fans and coaches out there.

(I must also admit that before I started reading this board, I may have occasionally yelled for an "over the back" foul.)

while i'm at it, a quick follow-up --

do the Fed rules allow 6 or 5 players on the lane for a free throw?

thanks again...

[tjones1]

Either would work. At most, 6 are allowed. The least is 2.

[refnrev]

W-hoops,
Welcome to the forum -- and thanks for the compliment about us being "experts." Just remember the two definitions for experts

1. A former drip under pressure.
2. Anyone who is more than 20 miles from home.

RR

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by tjones1
..... you are correct about NCAA-M and NCAA-W.

No, women's hoops is NOT correct. (No offense women's hoops, just didn't want you to leave with the wrong interp)

Under NCAA Men's rules, the opponent in the first space CAN have have his foot on the block.

As for NCAA Women, I'm not sure and I'm not looking it up.

Quite honestly, the NCAA rule book drives me crazy when I try to look things up. I really don't like their method of combining the rule book and "case book" together.

Here's a link to the NCAA Rule Book.

http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/20...ball_rules.pdf

[TravelinMan]

Speaking of experts,

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Answer - Five. One to change the bulb and four to tell him/her how much better they could have done it.


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[mick]

Originally posted by BktBallRef

No, women's hoops is NOT correct. (No offense women's hoops, just didn't want you to leave with the wrong interp)

Under NCAA Men's rules, the opponent in the first space CAN have have his foot on the block.

As for NCAA Women, I'm not sure and I'm not looking it up.

Quite honestly, the NCAA rule book drives me crazy when I try to look things up. I really don't like their method of combining the rule book and "case book" together.

Here's a link to the NCAA Rule Book.

http://www.ncaa.org/library/rules/20...ball_rules.pdf

RE: NCAA Women
The first legal lane space (identified as "above the block") does not include the block.
Feet must be in the space; thus, no feet on the block.
mick

[tjones1]

Originally posted by mick

RE: NCAA Women
The first legal lane space (identified as "above the block") does not include the block.
Feet must be in the space; thus, no feet on the block.
mick

Confused, so was my thinking correct?

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by tjones1

Confused, so was my thinking correct?

W_H said that Men couldn't stand on the block.

You said W_H was correct.

That's wrong. Men can stand on the block.

Unconfused now?

[mick]

Originally posted by tjones1

Confused, so was my thinking correct?

Tanner [in response] - "Fed (NFHS): You cannot have your foot on the block and you are correct about NCAA-M and NCAA-W.

Seems right, Tanner.

NFHS and Women - Foot on block is illegal
Men - Foot on block is legal for first two defenders.

mick

[mick]

Ow!!!
Dan's head is gonna explode!
mick

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by mick
Ow!!!
Dan's head is gonna explode!
mick

Don't worry Mick, I'm OK.

Just don't call me a thug, OK?

[BigGref]

Originally posted by womens_hoops

(I must also admit that before I started reading this board, I may have occasionally yelled for an "over the back" foul.)

What's over the back !!