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BktBallRef Sun Feb 27, 2005 04:06pm

Don't know about overlooked but the most ignored call is traveling. Spin moves, post moves, lifting the pivot on the dribble, illegal jump stops, the step up to the 3 point line, it's an epidemic.

BTW, regardless of where it takes place on the floor, when a player continuously places a hand on the opposing player, it is a foul.

QuebecRef87 Sun Feb 27, 2005 04:20pm

Mark,

Do you mean overlooked intentionally or not?

RollTide Sun Feb 27, 2005 04:47pm

I can't believe someone hasn't listed one of the two I hear from fans constantly: <b>Over the Back</b> lol

BTW, 3 seconds in the lane is the other one.

Mark Padgett Sun Feb 27, 2005 06:46pm

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Originally posted by QuebecRef87
Mark,

Do you mean overlooked intentionally or not?

Yes, I do.

WyMike Sun Feb 27, 2005 07:45pm

How about having the books ready within the time frame. How many actually do - or have - begin the game with an administrative T?

BktBallRef Sun Feb 27, 2005 08:31pm

The scorebook doesn't have to be ready at the 10 minute mark. The requirement is that the rosters and starters must be given to the scorer by the 10 minute mark. It makes no difference whether they are in the book at that time.

canuckrefguy Sun Feb 27, 2005 08:43pm

Most overlooked call?

How about this one? (NCAA rules)

Section 7. Direct Technical Fouls for Unsporting Player Conduct

Art. 3. Purposely obstructing an opponent’s vision by waving or placing hand(s) near his or her eyes.


Not to mention....

Section 9. Direct Technical Fouls for Unsporting Conduct of Bench Personnel
Any bench personnel of a team shall be assessed a direct technical foul for unsporting conduct that includes but is not limited to the following:

Art. 1. Disrespectfully addressing an official.

Art. 2. Attempting to influence an official’s decision.

Art. 5. Objecting to an official’s decision by rising from the bench or using gestures.
Art. 6. Inciting undesirable crowd reactions.


This last bunch is overlooked a lot more by coaches than by officials! :D



[Edited by canuckrefguy on Feb 27th, 2005 at 08:46 PM]

RefTip Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:03am

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Originally posted by Bush in 2004
I think it is this specific travel:

Player is in the air to either receive a pass or gather in a rebound. Let's label his feet A and B. He land first with foot A, FOLLOWED BY foot B. He then picks up foot A and pivots backward with it.

Do ya get the visual?

I agree that this is the one I see most often ignored !

RollTide Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:51pm

Free throw shooters lining up with their toe touching the tip of the free throw line.

Also the players under the basket getting in the lane a smidgeon before the ball touches the rim. Unless they are obviously in there well before the ball touches the rim, we seem to let it go.

JRutledge Mon Feb 28, 2005 01:05pm

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Originally posted by WyMike
How about having the books ready within the time frame. How many actually do - or have - begin the game with an administrative T?
Most officials avoid this by making sure they are at the table a couple minutes before the 10 minute mark. As Tony said all that has to be done is the information has to be submitted before that time.

Peace

Adam Mon Feb 28, 2005 01:15pm

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Originally posted by JRutledge
Quote:

Originally posted by WyMike
How about having the books ready within the time frame. How many actually do - or have - begin the game with an administrative T?
Most officials avoid this by making sure they are at the table a couple minutes before the 10 minute mark. As Tony said all that has to be done is the information has to be submitted before that time.

Peace

Around here, at the JV level, I'll never call it. I'll just coax them to get it done quickly. I had one coach admit to being an idiot when it came up at the 8:00 mark. I told him to remember that later in the game when he felt like complaining about our calls. :)

RecRef Mon Feb 28, 2005 01:17pm

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Originally posted by JRutledge
Quote:

Originally posted by brandan89
I would say Handcheck. I see defense players with their hand in the other players back all night long, and it is never called.
Yeah brandan, you have to have displacement.
Peace

Unless you are being sarcastic I have to disagree here. By the time you get displacement you are looking at a push. Handchecking is the prevention of a player’s movement, or movement in the desired direction, by putting ones hand(s) or forearm on the player.

JRutledge Mon Feb 28, 2005 01:40pm

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Originally posted by RecRef


Unless you are being sarcastic I have to disagree here. By the time you get displacement you are looking at a push. Handchecking is the prevention of a player’s movement, or movement in the desired direction, by putting ones hand(s) or forearm on the player.

Then you are just going to have to disagree. I was not at all being sarcastic. I probably should have said if the hand holds, directs or impedes the progress of the dribbler then I have a call. If all a player did was touching a dribbler I have nothing. Now I also tend to talk to players out of those kinds of contact as well. This then leads to less calls of this nature for me personally. If the players do not listen, I put air in the whistle. I just know that you cannot be doing the game a service if we are calling what is essentially touching as fouls. If that is the case, then on every rebound you have to make a foul call.

Peace

Almost Always Right Mon Feb 28, 2005 01:44pm

Easy answer for me -
Rule 10 Sect.5

AAR

RecRef Mon Feb 28, 2005 03:29pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Almost Always Right
Easy answer for me -
Rule 10 Sect.5

AAR

Coaches' Rule???? :)

Maybe Section 6?


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