Between games today, my partner and I were discussing the most "overlooked" call.

He thought it was 3 seconds when the player just had a pinkie toe on the line.

I said it was lifting the pivot foot before starting a dribble.

Any others?

Please note - we are not talking about NBA where virtually every travel is overlooked. ;)

I'd say the carry. There are so many times I don't see it called. And it always seems to be a point of emphasis at our association meetings.

I would say Handcheck. I see defense players with their hand in the other players back all night long, and it is never called.

ref18,

What does GENERAL OTIS T. WHACKINATOR think the most overlooked call is?

Ok, seriously, I think it's the handcheck too.

I think the player control by the point guard. The leading with the forearm and pushing off with it to clear space.

The partner killer.

The call where B1 fouls airborne A1 and then A1 charges B2.

I watched several high school championship and NCAA games today and I must have seen it 3 or 4 times. It was freaky.:D

Agree

The multiple foul!


For good reason, however!

Boys HS: Using the forearm on the dribble to create space to go up for the shot.
Girls HS: The Travel-Hop to create lift to get their 3 ptr to the hoop.

Calling either one brings half the house down.

IMO - the moving screen(of course there must be contact). There are many ways that a player can get away with this. Straight from a coach in w/ his offense revolved around setting screens.

Yeah brandan, you have to have displacement. Coaches yell all the time that their player is being touched and there is no advantage for the defender.

Peace

Camron:

Are you trying to start a riot in this thread.

MTD, Sr.

The T on the coach when he first deserves it, instead of when he has ignored the stop sign and we are sick of hearing him whine.

My vote is the intentional foul at the end of the game
 

Many vets will not call an intentional when a defensive player trying to make a comeback will grab an offensive player from behind to get to free throws.

Instead they reward the defense for making a bad play and just give a 1 and 1.

Most overlooked call in my opinion player control foul. Holds true especially for the newer official who doesn't understand the concept of refereeing the defense. If player control should be called the vast majority of the time a block will be called.

Don't know about overlooked but the most ignored call is traveling. Spin moves, post moves, lifting the pivot on the dribble, illegal jump stops, the step up to the 3 point line, it's an epidemic.

BTW, regardless of where it takes place on the floor, when a player continuously places a hand on the opposing player, it is a foul.

Mark,

Do you mean overlooked intentionally or not?

I can't believe someone hasn't listed one of the two I hear from fans constantly: <b>Over the Back</b> lol

BTW, 3 seconds in the lane is the other one.

Yes, I do.

How about having the books ready within the time frame. How many actually do - or have - begin the game with an administrative T?

The scorebook doesn't have to be ready at the 10 minute mark. The requirement is that the rosters and starters must be given to the scorer by the 10 minute mark. It makes no difference whether they are in the book at that time.

Most overlooked call?

How about this one? (NCAA rules)

Section 7. Direct Technical Fouls for Unsporting Player Conduct

Art. 3. Purposely obstructing an opponent’s vision by waving or placing hand(s) near his or her eyes.

Not to mention....

Section 9. Direct Technical Fouls for Unsporting Conduct of Bench Personnel
Any bench personnel of a team shall be assessed a direct technical foul for unsporting conduct that includes but is not limited to the following:

Art. 1. Disrespectfully addressing an official.

Art. 2. Attempting to influence an official’s decision.

Art. 5. Objecting to an official’s decision by rising from the bench or using gestures.
Art. 6. Inciting undesirable crowd reactions.

This last bunch is overlooked a lot more by coaches than by officials! :D



[Edited by canuckrefguy on Feb 27th, 2005 at 08:46 PM]

I agree that this is the one I see most often ignored !

Free throw shooters lining up with their toe touching the tip of the free throw line.

Also the players under the basket getting in the lane a smidgeon before the ball touches the rim. Unless they are obviously in there well before the ball touches the rim, we seem to let it go.

Most officials avoid this by making sure they are at the table a couple minutes before the 10 minute mark. As Tony said all that has to be done is the information has to be submitted before that time.

Peace

Around here, at the JV level, I'll never call it. I'll just coax them to get it done quickly. I had one coach admit to being an idiot when it came up at the 8:00 mark. I told him to remember that later in the game when he felt like complaining about our calls. :)

Unless you are being sarcastic I have to disagree here. By the time you get displacement you are looking at a push. Handchecking is the prevention of a player’s movement, or movement in the desired direction, by putting ones hand(s) or forearm on the player.

Then you are just going to have to disagree. I was not at all being sarcastic. I probably should have said if the hand holds, directs or impedes the progress of the dribbler then I have a call. If all a player did was touching a dribbler I have nothing. Now I also tend to talk to players out of those kinds of contact as well. This then leads to less calls of this nature for me personally. If the players do not listen, I put air in the whistle. I just know that you cannot be doing the game a service if we are calling what is essentially touching as fouls. If that is the case, then on every rebound you have to make a foul call.

Peace

Easy answer for me -
Rule 10 Sect.5

AAR

Coaches' Rule???? :)

Maybe Section 6?

I do not think he was responding to our discussion, but the original question.

Peace

ART. 1 - The head coach must remain seated on the bench at all times while the clock is running or is stopped except to;

a. Rise and stand in front of his/her seat to request a time out or to signal his/her players to request a time-out.
b. Confer with personnel at the scorers table to request a 60-second time out for a correctable error, as in 2-10.
c. Confer with personnel at the scorer's table to request a 60-second time-out to prevent or rectify a timing or scoring mistake or an alternating-possession mistake.
d. Replace or remove a disqualified/injured player, or a player directed to leave the game, within 30 seconds when a substitute is avaiable, while within the confines of his/her bench.


And that's just Art. 1! I have to agree with Almost Always Right about this rule. Why is this even in the book?

state of Alabama allows coaches to stand in the coaches box (14' long - 28' line toward the end line). They maintain this privilege unless they receive a direct technical or an indirect tech via their bench. Then, they must do as the book says, minus the part allowing them to stand up to get substitutes. Only time they can get up is during a timeout or in between quarters.

Obviously there are many violations that tend to go unpunished.

The reason?

I believe that players look at the NBA and College games as standard setters (officials too?) and I guess use the non-calls there as a guideline.

How can a HS or lower official really uphold the rules and call these violations when the people who these players strive to emmulate get away with the same things?

The fans/ parents think: "Hey I saw (insert NBA player name) do that very same thing and they did not call it, why is it different for my kid?"

IMHO change would need to happen at the top and I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Back in my cage.

It is the push the offensive player gives to the defender before recieving a pass.

The non-call.

Okay who has kids and has never heard the following, "Knock it off or I"m telling Dad!!!" followed by the infamous, "I'm not to-o-o-ouching y-o-o-o-o-u!!!" as they spin their fingertip precariously close to their siblings beak.

Touch, push, hold or displacement. We all know what the intent was at the time the infraction happened.

Aside from debating the semantics aspects of it, if the "touch" has intent, the "check" has intent, the "hook" has intent, call it.

And in the above example it didn't matter whether my boy was or wasn't touching his sister, he still got whacked, and that was the end of it. (Or at least until we got back to the house it was)!

I gotta go with the hand check. It's getting to be a pretty touchy feely game these days and not much hand checking is called.