Worst. Partner. Ever.

[Jimgolf]

BTW, this is the guy all the coaches always complain about.

As for ruining your career by complaining about someone, as Emiliano Zapata said, "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees."

[theboys]

Y'know, its overstating the comparison, but the more time I spend on this forum, the more I see a similarity between you and police officers. You're a tight-knit group, often in an adversarial relationship with the people you interact with. Cops protect the public while overseeing administration of the law - you protect the game by overseeing administration of its rules.

But, just like the police, one bad apple can ruin the reputation of the larger group (e.g., Rodney King). Unfortunately, because the police often feel like they can only rely on each other, when dealing with bad cops they simply close ranks. Giving up another cop is very difficult.

Ultimately, though, such an approach hurts the public's trust. And, if you take the same approach as officials, you're hurting the game.

No matter what level I'm coaching, I'm giving my best to the kids. I screw up...a lot. But, its never because I'm not trying my hardest. I expect the same from my players and the officials.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by theboys
But, just like the police, one bad apple can ruin the reputation of the larger group (e.g., Rodney King). Unfortunately, because the police often feel like they can only rely on each other, when dealing with bad cops they simply close ranks. Giving up another cop is very difficult.

Ultimately, though, such an approach hurts the public's trust. And, if you take the same approach as officials, you're hurting the game.

I agree with what you're saying. However, your comparison doesn't quite hold in this sitch. OverAndBack is more like a whistleblower in a corrupt precinct. It's not that we're protecting the "bad" refs, just agreeing with OAB that trying to bust a bad 'un might have consequences. There are lots of parts of the country where there's only one reffing group and if you split on it, you're done. That's a tough choice for a new addict.

[Dan_ref]

I don't know why but I got an urge to rent "Serpico" tonight.

[JRutledge]

theboys,

I think you are really overstating it a bit. We are not like cops. Cops can make decisions that affect life or death. We also rip a lot of fellow officials on this site all the time when it comes to many issues. Your interactions with not only officials can affect you, but so can what you do with coaches, fans and the school administration you have to deal with. I think there are those that come from situations that it would be a bad thing to speak up. Well the area that this place took place is not like that. There is no one association that has that much power. There is not one person that has that much power to ruin anyone's career here. And not too many folks are going to have a fit over what happens at a lower level game in the first place. I really think most people have overreacted and are bringing in their own local politics to this discussion when they would not apply here. Our state office assigns playoff games, not a local association. Conferences hire an assignor to assign their officials and are fired if they do not satisfy the wants of the principals and ADs. Speaking out about a single lower level veteran is not going to eliminate all possibilities of working in the future. It just comes down to how you do it.

I worked a game at a tournament a few years ago and saw a veteran working in a pair of black jeans for officiating pants. I found out that many officials had little or no respect for this guy and others felt the same way I did about this "veteran." My career has been nothing but spectacular since. Get the picture.

Peace