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Old Tue Jan 11, 2005, 06:12pm
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Re: Nahhh

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If he had missed the free throw, would you give him another because the horn may have "disconcerted" him?
In my opinion, if it is the visiting team shooting, if he misses, he gets another try, if he makes it count. If it is the home team, no retry no matter what.

I think a FT, when all other action has stopped and one player is alone focusing on the shot, usually without alot of other noise, the "play on when the horn goes off" is overtaken by common sense. I don't think the horn would be as much of a distraction if he is dribbling or even shooting a jumper in the midst of the game.
You're responding as if the table is intentionally trying to disconcert the shooter... often they are just nitwits. (That is why the horn does immediately create a dead ball.)

If you were relatively certain that the person running the horn is trying to disconcert, I would likely assess a technical foul... and then probably (HTBT timing) reshoot a missed free throw.

Gotta treat both teams the same in the case of nitwits.
Point taken, makes sense to me.
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Old Tue Jan 11, 2005, 06:48pm
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The home coach had a hard time excepting the fact that one of his starters had just fouled out. He asked me how much time he had to get a sub, and I said 30 sec.

He sent the sub to the table, I beckoned him in and went to administor the free throw (not knowing that coach A had told the sub to wait until the 30 seconds were up to enter the floor). In the middle of the shooting motion the timer (home administrator) blew the horn and the free throw is an air ball.
I think this is your mistake more than the coach's. You need to see to it that the sub enters when you beckon, and that the time is turned off. Coach was not following the rules, no, but he wasn't delaying the game, either, since you went ahead with the shot. The T would have been appropriate if you had been paying attention, so that the coach would be telling the player to disobey you, in your presence. With you not looking, and the table not understanding the situation, it's just a 'teachable moment" for you, the coach and the table.
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