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Old Tue Dec 28, 2004, 10:25am
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A1 bringing ball up in backcourt with pressure, A2 jumps from frontcourt while in the air catches ball from A1 and lands in backcourt. no violation because ball never made frontcourt status, correct?
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Old Tue Dec 28, 2004, 10:32am
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If A2 establishes control while in the air and then comes down with one foot on or over the line we have a backcourt violation. This is due to the fact that the player had front court status when he left the floor on his jump. He maintains that status until he comes back down. When he landed with one foot on/over the line he was the first one to touch the ball while in the backcourt after the ball had acquired front court status.

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A1 bringing ball up in backcourt with pressure, A2 jumps from frontcourt while in the air catches ball from A1 and lands in backcourt. no violation because ball never made frontcourt status, correct?
Backcourt Violation

The location of an airborne player is determined by where he was last at. In this case the player was in the frontcourt, went airborne (where he caught the ball), then landed in backcourt.

When the player caught the ball, because he had frontcourt status, the ball now has frontcourt status. When the player lands in backcourt we have a violation.
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Old Tue Dec 28, 2004, 10:41am
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On a jump a player is where he was until he gets where he is going.
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Old Tue Dec 28, 2004, 11:36am
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so if A2 jumps from the front court and lands in the backcourt then catches the ball from A1, no BC violation.
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Old Tue Dec 28, 2004, 11:46am
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Correct. Ball was backcourt. A2 established as BackCourt when he/she landed in the backcourt. Caught the ball in the backcourt, so ball is still backcourt. No violation.
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Old Tue Dec 28, 2004, 11:58am
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On a jump a player is where he was until he gets where he is going.
Correct for the most part, however....

If team A is inbounding the ball in their front court and they pass the ball and the player receiving the ball jumps from the front court, catches the ball in the air and lands in the back court, there is no violation.

I think it is important to note this exception, as this play has happened twice in my games this year.
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Old Tue Dec 28, 2004, 12:27pm
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On a jump a player is where he was until he gets where he is going.
Correct for the most part, however....

If team A is inbounding the ball in their front court and they pass the ball and the player receiving the ball jumps from the front court, catches the ball in the air and lands in the back court, there is no violation.

I think it is important to note this exception, as this play has happened twice in my games this year.
Just to add to that:

There is no team control or player control during a throw-in, but on top of that there is NO frontcourt or backcourt either.
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Old Tue Dec 28, 2004, 02:14pm
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If A2 establishes control while in the air and then comes down with one foot on or over the line we have a backcourt violation. This is due to the fact that the player had front court status when he left the floor on his jump. He maintains that status until he comes back down. When he landed with one foot on/over the line he was the first one to touch the ball while in the backcourt after the ball had acquired front court status.

There is no need for A2 to establish control. The pass could go through his hands and the ball bounce off his head. The ball now has front court status. A2 landing in back court now has back court status and the ball coming down conks A2 on the head again and bounces directly into front court. We whistle a backcourt violation in this case if we can stop laughing.
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Old Tue Dec 28, 2004, 03:09pm
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If A2 establishes control while in the air and then comes down with one foot on or over the line we have a backcourt violation. This is due to the fact that the player had front court status when he left the floor on his jump. He maintains that status until he comes back down. When he landed with one foot on/over the line he was the first one to touch the ball while in the backcourt after the ball had acquired front court status.

There is no need for A2 to establish control. The pass could go through his hands and the ball bounce off his head. The ball now has front court status. A2 landing in back court now has back court status and the ball coming down conks A2 on the head again and bounces directly into front court. We whistle a backcourt violation in this case if we can stop laughing.
Not in this case. You are correct and I miswrote (Is that even a word? I was going to say misspoke, but I didnt'). However, the reason control is not required is because team control had already been established by the player in the backcourt. In another situation this would not be a violation. For example,if team A is inbounding the ball on the endline in their frontcourt and lobs the ball out toward a player near the division line, if the ball goes through their hands and they never gained control, it is not a violation if it goes into the backcourt and they are the first to touch it.




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