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Back In The Saddle Mon Dec 27, 2004 01:53pm

Untied shoelaces, unlike water on the floor, injured players, blood, eyeglasses off, etc. are entirely within the control of the player involved. As has been stated, it takes only a few seconds for him/her to retie them. There is no need to stop the game to remedy this hazard.

Back In The Saddle Mon Dec 27, 2004 01:59pm

Let's assume we have been instructed not to stop the game for a stuck net. A gets a breakaway layup, but the net is stuck so tightly that his shot cannot pass through. Just to make it more interesting, lets say the ball comes to rest on top of the stuck net. What then?

Can we award the basket based on 2-3? Or do we simply say, "Too bad?"

If we don't award a basket, do we go to the arrow because the ball came to rest on the basket (I don't have my book, does the verbiage support this possibility, or just coming to rest on the flange)? Will it matter, since the offended coach will likely earn a T on this play.

bob jenkins Mon Dec 27, 2004 02:12pm

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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
Can we award the basket based on 2-3? Or do we simply say, "Too bad?"


I'd answer "no" to both questions. ;)

See "how points are scored" (sorry - -I don't have my books handy) and note that the ball needn't pass through the basket for points to be scored.

Back In The Saddle Mon Dec 27, 2004 02:34pm

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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
Can we award the basket based on 2-3? Or do we simply say, "Too bad?"


I'd answer "no" to both questions. ;)

See "how points are scored" (sorry - -I don't have my books handy) and note that the ball needn't pass through the basket for points to be scored.

I don't have my books handy either. But from your post I'll assume the book says something about "a live ball enters the basket from above?" It's the violation that talks about a ball "passing through" the basket from below?

Dan_ref Mon Dec 27, 2004 02:34pm

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
I don't stop the game for stuck nets or untied shoes.
What about untied nets or stuck shoes?

Back In The Saddle Mon Dec 27, 2004 02:40pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
I don't stop the game for stuck nets or untied shoes.
What about untied nets or stuck shoes?

Probably depends on where the shoes are stuck :D

bob jenkins Mon Dec 27, 2004 03:52pm

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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
I don't have my books handy either. But from your post I'll assume the book says something about "a live ball enters the basket from above?" It's the violation that talks about a ball "passing through" the basket from below?
"Passes through or remains in the basket" -- the latter describes the situation at hand.


blindzebra Mon Dec 27, 2004 04:02pm

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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
I don't have my books handy either. But from your post I'll assume the book says something about "a live ball enters the basket from above?" It's the violation that talks about a ball "passing through" the basket from below?
"Passes through or remains in the basket" -- the latter describes the situation at hand.


But it does not cover a shot that bounces out off the stuck net.;)

Back In The Saddle Mon Dec 27, 2004 05:26pm

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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
I don't have my books handy either. But from your post I'll assume the book says something about "a live ball enters the basket from above?" It's the violation that talks about a ball "passing through" the basket from below?
"Passes through or remains in the basket" -- the latter describes the situation at hand.


We're covered if an older gym is still using peach baskets! And it's close enough to handling coming to rest on the stuck net.

But blindzebra is correct, it doesn't cover bouncing off because of a stuck net. Which brings me back to my original questions ...

bob jenkins Tue Dec 28, 2004 08:09am

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Originally posted by blindzebra
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Originally posted by bob jenkins
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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
I don't have my books handy either. But from your post I'll assume the book says something about "a live ball enters the basket from above?" It's the violation that talks about a ball "passing through" the basket from below?
"Passes through or remains in the basket" -- the latter describes the situation at hand.


But it does not cover a shot that bounces out off the stuck net.;)

Agreed.

But the play to which I was responding was BITS' "lets (sic) say the ball comes to rest on top of the stuck net. What then?"


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