fed rules...is there anything in the rule book/ officials manual to deal with a 'stuck' net?

other than the fact that we have always blown the whistle to untangle the net, is there anything in print?

i can think of 2 reasons NOT to untangle...#1, it has no bearing on the ball going in/out...#2, by blowing whistle, we reward the defense and give them the ability to press, etc...

I'm not sure what the books say, but I usually wait for the next dead ball unless it's a made basket to fix the net.

The book doesn't say. There's been quite a bit of debate about it here. You might want to google a bit and see if you can find it. If you do stop the game to get the net down, you need to let subs in. Decide whether you're going to stop the game or not, and be consistent.

No need to google. Leave the net alone. It's not going to stop the next shot from going in. If it really, really bugs you, fix it at a natural stoppage. Do not stop the game to fix it.

I agree with Chuck. We have been told not to stop game. Fix it at the next natural stopage.

I don't stop the game for stuck nets or untied shoes.

Like you say, it's not addressed in the book. In my area, everyone blows the whistle and stops the game when the net wraps.

Besides, I've had the net wrap to the point where it gets stuck on those little metal "thingies" that hold the net (yes, only a couple times). That would prevent the next shot from going in.

Z

The NF and Referee Magazine put out a ruling in their yearly Guidebook I believe last year that addressed this. They said that if it happens once you might stop the game. If it keeps happening, do not keep stopping the game every time it happens. If the problem is that bad, have the game management put on a new net. So basically do not make a big deal out of it.

Peace

I disagree for two reasons:
1. MTD posted something here last season from the NFHS about how to handle the situation. It said to have someone down there on the end to fix it with a pole or something while play goes the other way, but if that wasn't possible to stop the game and fix the net.
2. 1-10-1 states that each basket shall have a net "suspended from beneath the ring." In my opinion if the net is wrapped/caught up around the ring, then the basket does not meet the specifications in the rules book and the game should be stopped in order to address the playing conditions. IOW you have an illegal basket at one end of the court.

I have seen a stuck net reject a ball from going through on more than one occaison. But, always wait for a stoppage.

We were told in our annual interpretation meeting (IAABO) a couple of years ago not to stop the game but to fix at the next dead ball.

Interesting. In a Fed. game a great deal of emphasis is put on safety (no jewelry, no hard objects in hair no exposed hinges on braces no hard casts etc.) of the players. IMHO unitied shoes falls into this category. I agree don't take away a good scoring opportuinity but why not after a made basket or a team is walking the ball up the court blow the whistle and have the issue resolved? If you came across spilled water on the floor would you not take care of it at the most opportune moment?

I think the argument here would be that a stuck net is not a safety issue.

I think the argument here would be that a stuck net is not a safety issue. [/B][/QUOTE]

Not talking about stuck nets.

Ah, shoe laces. Sorry about that.
I won't stop play for that, but I'll prolong a dead ball to let them tie their shoes. They don't need a dead ball to tie their shoes; as they can take care of that in about 5 seconds while their teammates cover for them.

Untied shoelaces, unlike water on the floor, injured players, blood, eyeglasses off, etc. are entirely within the control of the player involved. As has been stated, it takes only a few seconds for him/her to retie them. There is no need to stop the game to remedy this hazard.

Let's assume we have been instructed not to stop the game for a stuck net. A gets a breakaway layup, but the net is stuck so tightly that his shot cannot pass through. Just to make it more interesting, lets say the ball comes to rest on top of the stuck net. What then?

Can we award the basket based on 2-3? Or do we simply say, "Too bad?"

If we don't award a basket, do we go to the arrow because the ball came to rest on the basket (I don't have my book, does the verbiage support this possibility, or just coming to rest on the flange)? Will it matter, since the offended coach will likely earn a T on this play.

I'd answer "no" to both questions. ;)

See "how points are scored" (sorry - -I don't have my books handy) and note that the ball needn't pass through the basket for points to be scored.

I don't have my books handy either. But from your post I'll assume the book says something about "a live ball enters the basket from above?" It's the violation that talks about a ball "passing through" the basket from below?

What about untied nets or stuck shoes?

Probably depends on where the shoes are stuck :D

"Passes through or remains in the basket" -- the latter describes the situation at hand.

But it does not cover a shot that bounces out off the stuck net.;)

We're covered if an older gym is still using peach baskets! And it's close enough to handling coming to rest on the stuck net.

But blindzebra is correct, it doesn't cover bouncing off because of a stuck net. Which brings me back to my original questions ...

Agreed.

But the play to which I was responding was BITS' "lets (sic) say the ball comes to rest on top of the stuck net. What then?"