flopping

[ShadowStripes]

Another PoE that is not needed. Of course, this is the year we get time out recognition as one of the big POEs. Could we possibly get some more useless stuff to talk about? I guess the NFHS has finally surrendered on "rough play" this year after a decade of harping on it. My take on flopping? When flops are consistently not called by good officials, it tends to cut them out. Most good officials will call the block on a flop if there is a reasonable amount of contact. Calling technicals on non-contact flops? Silly, and unnecessarily putting stuff in the game...

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by ShadowStripes
Another PoE that is not needed. Of course, this is the year we get time out recognition as one of the big POEs. Could we possibly get some more useless stuff to talk about? I guess the NFHS has finally surrendered on "rough play" this year after a decade of harping on it. My take on flopping? When flops are consistently not called by good officials, it tends to cut them out. Most good officials will call the block on a flop if there is a reasonable amount of contact. Calling technicals on non-contact flops? Silly, and unnecessarily putting stuff in the game...

I agree on the flopping. Consistent no-call and a word with the flopper usually puts an end to it. I've never been big on calling a block for this, doesn't seem within the intent of the rules to me. T for this is silly.

[mick]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Consistent no-call and a word with the flopper usually puts an end to it. I've never been big on calling a block for this, doesn't seem within the intent of the rules to me. T for this is silly.

T'other night.
A5 flopped three times. No-call three times.

4th flop, in my Lead lap, zero contact.
My partner rings up a PC from 60 feet away.
Dang it!!!
mick

[RookieDude]

Originally posted by mick

T'other night.
A5 flopped three times. No-call three times.

4th flop, in my Lead lap, zero contact.
My partner rings up a PC from 60 feet away.
Dang it!!!
mick

What do you always say mick?...
get in
get done
get out

BTW, I'm with Dan...no-call and a word.

[mick]

Originally posted by RookieDude
BTW, I'm with Dan...no-call and a word.

I think if there was a rule to warn for the initial flop, I could live with that. I think that would be fair enough.

As it stands, with the penalty exceeding the act, I wonder what kinda stuff would precipitate if the opposing coach heard us tell the flopper's coach that next time that flopper will get whacked.

"Wha'? Why didn't you "T" him? It's the rule!"
At least with a no-call, we can call it judgement.
mick

[RookieDude]

Originally posted by mick

I think if there was a rule to warn for the initial flop, I could live with that. I think that would be fair enough.

As it stands, with the penalty exceeding the act, I wonder what kinda stuff would precipitate if the opposing coach heard us tell the flopper's coach that next time that flopper will get whacked.

"Wha'? Why didn't you "T" him? It's the rule!"
At least with a no-call, we can call it judgement.
mick

Exactly...
my word could be....
"You're getting close to being called for a flop buddy."
This way, in my judgement, he was close but no cigar.

[mick]

Originally posted by RookieDude

Exactly...
my word could be....
"You're getting close to being called for a flop buddy."
This way, in my judgement, he was close but no cigar.

That's useable.
mick

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by mick

T'other night.
A5 flopped three times. No-call three times.

4th flop, in my Lead lap, zero contact.
My partner rings up a PC from 60 feet away.
Dang it!!!
mick

Eesh. Just like feeding the dog scraps from the table. Do it once & you're back to square 1.

Originally posted by RookieDude
Exactly...
my word could be....
"You're getting close to being called for a flop buddy."
This way, in my judgement, he was close but no cigar.

My word is closer to "knock that sh1t off". Almost always draws a smile, a nod & a quick "OK, good call".

The players in my neck of the woods have thick skins.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
My word is closer to "knock that sh1t off". Almost always draws a smile, a nod & a quick "OK, good call".

The players in my neck of the woods have thick skins.

I guess so! I don't think I'll try this on the 7th grade girls I do!

[ace]

I know in our area floppers tend to be less and less at the varstiy level if the sub-varsity officials do there job and those of us that call summer or AAU leages handle it there as well. I've never called a T for flopping. It usually takes one flop and when they stand up and look for the whistle i try and keep it between the player and I ask "With no contact?" And it usuually settles it. If it becomes a problem next dead ball i'll grab the player and tell him "we see you flopping and we're not going to give you a whistle, so please kncok it off before someone gets hurt. keep it up and we'll t you." And if the coach asks what yall talked about you just tell him quitely - "makin sure he tied his shoes reall good so he'll stop trippin on 'em." I've only recived one dumb-founded look from a coach after that explanation.

Why fret the small stuff when flopping when we need to be working with our partners on the 60' player controls and other things more important to the flow of the game.