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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dan_ref
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The loud screaming coach... it is definitely easy to justify a T-bone here. The act is sold to everyone already - by the coach. It just now needs to be administered by the official. Most LOOKS I can look away from and thereby ignore. But why do I need to look away. This coach is trying to create some animosity by giving you the "I'm gonna kick your arse" look. Am I required to ignore, acknowledge, see past ... what? Often I can look away/beyond such childish acts but perhaps today, I choose to acknowledge his antics. I still feel justified and now after administering the T, less distracted. The nose hold, or throat choke... T-Bone The accusatory diligent stare... maybe, maybe not. I would really like to smile and wave at the coach who wants to spend his timeout staring me down... but that IS kind of smartassed... and funny. :D [Edited by DownTownTonyBrown on Sep 27th, 2004 at 12:48 PM] |
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He is entitled to stand and look at you if he wants to. It's his TO. In the Temple game, the coach was John Chaney, a major league dexterhole, who once said he'd kill John Calipari. I believe that he was NOT T'd up for the stare-down incident. I could be wrong, but I saw it on TV, and I'm pretty sure that there was no T. Perhaps there was another incident that resulted in a T, I'm not sure. Finally, the comment about blowing a kiss was intended to be a joke. That would obviously be unprofessional and inappropriate. I was trying to be funny. I have however, flashed the big grin to fans. [Edited by ChuckElias on Sep 27th, 2004 at 07:53 PM] |
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It was Don Chaney and it was probably closer to 15 years ago. You're right- he didn't get a T for that, but he got one later on in the same game. And threatening to kill Calipari definitely does NOT make him a bad person. Chaney would have to stand in line for that one. Calipari is a jerk. |
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Besides, the case I saw a coach get a T for it was the first T so no report was necessary. Z |
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You make all your calls based on how you'll justify them later? |
Kinda like Ron Garretson's, "Stop eyeballing me, Rasheed," T a few years ago.
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John Chaney. |
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And finally, you focused on my comment about the report and overlooked the most important part of that post. You can't T the coach b/c he hasn't done anything illegal. Looking at you is not illegal. There's nothing in the book that prohibits "staring" or "glaring" or whatever. He hasn't addressed you in a disrespectful manner, b/c he hasn't addressed you at all. If you really feel that the staring is not acceptible, you put that T "in your pocket", as Edgar would say, and bring it out the next time he does something that is borderline that you might normally let go. I personally would not do this, but I honestly believe that you can't T a guy for doing literally nothing. |
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I don't take unsporting disrespectful bullsh1t from coaches. Where I come from staring someone down is a threat. If the coach is too stupid to realize this then too f'ing bad. I don't worry about what I'll say to anyone after taking care of business. |
A coach did this to me once -- called a TO and then stared at me the whole time. I debated the T, but the only person who looked like a fool through the whole time-out was him! He was the away coach from a long distance, so he didn't have a lot of fans there to back him up. He was losing badly, because he was a lousy coach, and he didn't know the rules. I didn't see any point in being quick on the trigger. Later, I had to T him for something else and I was glad I didn't have to toss him. Reports, and all that...
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[/B][/QUOTE]I agree with Mr. Bickle.Just say to the coach <b>"You talking to me?"</b> |
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As I said, I wouldn't either. I've never done that. It was just a suggestion. Quote:
Well, I guess I'm too stupid to realize it too. Because where I come from, staring someone down is staring. Quote:
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In general, I agree with Chuck on this -- either ignore it, or T for something else*, or bait him into a T (no -- I'm not recommending this), or talk to him -- "I need you to go to your huddle, coach" or "did you have a qquestion?"
* -- example of a T for something else: A5 fouled out. After I reported the foul, and notified the coach, he decided to use the 30 seconds to step (one or two steps) onto the floor to stare at me. I made a big deal (so everyone could see / wouold know what was happening) of instructing the timer to time 30 seconds and give me a horn when the time had elapsed. When the horn went off, there was no player at the table. T. Immediately. |
totally agree
staring is not a technical foul...don't see staring in the rule book under technical foul either... :) yeah it may aggrevate some, but surely he had to say something that you could of T'd him for before he started his little staring spree???
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