Question about a rule

[81artmonk]

I had established my position well in front of the basket. 2nd, I was standing straight up with my hands in the air. 3rd. I was there at least 6-8 steps before the ball handler would have reached me. The ball handler clipped me. If you were to draw a line down my middle from head to crotch he would have clipped my whole right side and sent me flying to the floor. the official explained to me that I cannot just stand there and allow the ball handler to hit me, that is a block. He further explained that I DID NOT move my hips out to create contact nor did I use any other body part to create contact, it was the fact that I just stood there and allowed contact. Obviously I cannot just go to him and call him on a bad call I need some kind of written proof of rules in order to have them change the way they call that foul.

scott

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by cford
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You have to have your feet within shoulder width in order for it to be a charge (LGP?). If you have your legs spread eagle then it would be a block, right? I can't remember were this is in the book, maybe under LGP?

This might have been the case in this game.
[/B][/QUOTE]The language you are looking for is under "CONTACT" in NFHS rule 10-6-1--"A player shall not.....impede the progress of an opponent by extending an arm, shoulder, hip or knee, or by bending the body into other than a normal position".

[Camron Rust]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

You have to have your feet within shoulder width in order for it to be a charge (LGP?). If you have your legs spread eagle then it would be a block, right? I can't remember were this is in the book, maybe under LGP?

This might have been the case in this game.
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The language you are looking for is under "CONTACT" in NFHS rule 10-6-1--"A player shall not.....impede the progress of an opponent by extending an arm, shoulder, hip or knee, or by bending the body into other than a normal position". [/B][/QUOTE]

However, this only matters if the contact is on that extended appendage. If the player is doing the splits but is still hit in the torso, the position of the arms and legs do not matter.

Sounds like this case was simply called wrong. I've heard people before claim similar things.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by 81artmonk
I had established my position well in front of the basket. 2nd, I was standing straight up with my hands in the air. 3rd. I was there at least 6-8 steps before the ball handler would have reached me. The ball handler clipped me. If you were to draw a line down my middle from head to crotch he would have clipped my whole right side and sent me flying to the floor. the official explained to me that I cannot just stand there and allow the ball handler to hit me, that is a block. He further explained that I DID NOT move my hips out to create contact nor did I use any other body part to create contact, it was the fact that I just stood there and allowed contact. Obviously I cannot just go to him and call him on a bad call I need some kind of written proof of rules in order to have them change the way they call that foul.

scott

Here is what you do. Wait until the game is over. Approach him quietly. Ask him to if he could show you this in the rulebook so you can know what to do. To this all calm and without emotion.

It is clear that the official does not know the rule or you misunderstood what he told you. But you never have to move under that situation as long as you have established LGP. It just sound like he was making it up in order to get you off his back about this call. But this sounds like a Men's league and unfortunately you do not get very competent officials a good portion of the time. But usually "real" committed officials would never work those leagues. Tell us how it works out.

Peace

[ref18]

Originally posted by JRutledge
But usually "real" committed officials would never work those leagues. Tell us how it works out.

I strongly disagree with this statement, many "real committed officials" have gotten their start in leagues like this, I know that I have, rec-leages are an integral part of official's training, and we need more "committed" officials working them in order to help the newbies learn and become better officials.