Gary,
TH and Bob agree with the reading.
I believe that they always foul the rule.
I like them.
I like to follow the rules.
I do not like that rule, because it does not seem fair to me.

I guess a reason for that rule could be that a scorekeeper could list all the names and then list all the numbers, but somehow slip a row and then have all the numbers wrong and maybe one left over. I can see where that would be penalized only once in a game.

I dunno. But, thanks for helping.

mick

WHEW! What a post! I hope I didn't offend anyone during the course of the discussion. I'm arguing a point, not arguing with any person(s). It sounds like we're all on the same page now, except for mick, who kinda believes it but doesn't like it. :)

10-1-1 covers the requirement to have the lineups and starters to the scorer by the 10 minute mark. One T can be assessed if that doesn't happen.

10-1-2 covers the 5 things that can happen with the book that require a change to be made. There can only be 1 T called no matter how many changes are made in the book until the game is over. If the change is made in the book, the T must be assessed before the next live ball.

None of this has anything to do with a player wearing an illegal number. That's a completely separate issue.

We seem to have this happen at tournaments quite a bit. What happens is that a team wears different numbers based on their home jerseys versus their away jerseys. The offical scorer just copies the lineup from one day when a team is home to the book on the next day when the team is the visitor. Suddenly , we have 15 numbers that are all wrong. For that reason, we're always real careful to check the numbers, especially during tournaments.

BTW, we don't call a T when this happens.

PS- Thanks for your help Bob.

[Edited by BktBallRef on Jan 3rd, 2001 at 04:50 PM]

Now you're sounding like a coach! ;)

TH, why?
 

:o

Why would you offend anyone? You just made an argument and stood by it. That is what you are suppose to do. You actually are correct on this one, but I still do not feel good about it. Because it seems to me that you could after the first mistake keep trying to deceive and having number problems. But I will look further in the rulebook, but I probably will not find anything, I haven't so far.

Just trying to get along with everybody, Jeff. We all need more friends and fewer enemies. ;)

Whew is right.
 

Tony,
That's a fact!
I am tryin'.
mick

Thanks for all the replies guys. I think we've gotten to the bottom of this. BBallRef, when I referred to you as an answer man, it was meant as a compliment, not a shot. I just wanted to make sure you understood that. Thanks for all the replies, Ralph.

Consider it understood and consider this a thank you.