Basketball(traveling)

[Lorenzo]

If a person goes up for a shot and air balls, and the ball hits the ground, Is that person allowed to get the ball without any person touching it? In other words is he able to be the first person to touch the ball without a violation being called on him.

[Mark Padgett]

At what level? Rules can be different for high school, college, pro and FEEBLE.

In high school in the US, this is legal.

Sometimes "driveway rules" are whatever the driveway owner says they are.

[cmckenna]

An attempted shot ends player control and team control. The shooter can recover without penalty

[cmckenna]

Ya beat me to it Mark, but good points. I neglected to consider anything other than Fed...

[Jurassic Referee]

Legal in NCAA. Illegal in NBA. FIBA- ?

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by Lorenzo
If a person goes up for a shot and air balls, and the ball hits the ground, Is that person allowed to get the ball without any person touching it? In other words is he able to be the first person to touch the ball without a violation being called on him.

As everyone said, legal. And btw, you don't have to wait for the ball to bounce on the floor, even off the backboard is legal, or as it comes down from over the top.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

I have looked at the FIBA Rules Book and Casebook and cannot find any rule or casebook play that prohibits the shooter from being the first player to touch that ball after shooting an airball. Maybe Mark Padgett can come to my aid on this play.

MTD, Sr.

[Chin Ref]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Legal in NCAA. Illegal in NBA. FIBA- ?

Legal in FIBA.

[Nevadaref]

Originally posted by rainmaker

As everyone said, legal. And btw, you don't have to wait for the ball to bounce on the floor, even off the backboard is legal, or as it comes down from over the top.

Uh, Juulie, wouldn't "over the top" make it OOB, and thus illegal?
Good point though about not having to wait for it to hit the floor. In NFHS or NCAA you may catch your own airball.
See the Nevada/GT game in this year's NCAA tourney.

[cmckenna]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nevadaref

Uh, Juulie, wouldn't "over the top" make it OOB, and thus illegal?

As long as it doesn't touch any supports or cables or anything it should be ok, right ???

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Nevadaref

Uh, Juulie, wouldn't "over the top" make it OOB, and thus illegal?

I'm just guessing, but I think she means "over the top of the basket". Up, over the rim without touching, and down on the other side.

You're right -- the ball passing over a rectangular backboard is a violation; however, I don't think that's what Juulie had in mind.

[ChuckElias]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by cmckenna

Originally posted by Nevadaref

As long as it doesn't touch any supports or cables or anything it should be ok, right ???

Nope. If it passes over any part of a rectangular backboard (front to back, or back to front) it's a violation.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

I'm just guessing, but I think she means "over the top of the basket". Up, over the rim without touching, and down on the other side.

You're right -- the ball passing over a rectangular backboard is a violation; however, I don't think that's what Juulie had in mind.

Wow!! Chuck's not only a nice guy, but a mind-reader, as well. That's exactly what I meant. I think these are probably the most common "air-ball travels", aren't they?

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by rainmaker
Wow!! Chuck's not only a nice guy, but a mind-reader, as well. That's exactly what I meant.

I'm not a mind-reader. I am, however, a logician. And one fundamental logical form is the disjunctive syllogism. If you only have two choices, and you know one of them can't be true, then logic dictates that the other must be true.

My choices were:

1) Juulie thinks it's legal for the ball to pass over a rectangular backboard; or

2) Juulie's talking about a ball that goes over the basket.

I knew (1) was false. It was easy after that

I think these are probably the most common "air-ball travels", aren't they?

I would go with the jumper that comes up short. But as others sometimes say, YMMV.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by rainmaker
Wow!! Chuck's not only a nice guy, but a mind-reader, as well. That's exactly what I meant. I think these are probably the most common "air-ball travels", aren't they?

Yeah, right.

Nice save, Chuck.