I thought it was interesting that the commentators were so surprised...

An absolutely unbelieva le series. How come when both teams play well, Boston wins in a thriller; but when both teams play poorly, the Yankees win easily?

It just isn't a baseball game without the NYPD task force complete with Riot Gear :D

I agree, it's been unbelieva le.

BTW, this is before my tme but if Boston does win it will be a lot like the series Pittsburgh won in...1960? NY crushed them in 3 games, lost 4 close ones including the final on a walk off home run by Bill Mazeroski.

BTW2 - how many of us as kids dreamed of being at the plate or on the mound with a full count, 2 outs, bottom of the 9th, 2 on and down by 3 during the biggest game of the year? I know I did. :)

Dang space ar.

Yup. I feel a little bad for Tony Clark. . . but only a little. Tony was with the Sox for a year after his monster season in Detroit. Everybody says he's a superb person, that he's likeable, etc. He just had a miserable year in Boston. I wish him all the best in his career -- starting next February.

What kids dream of is being in that situation and then winning. The other possibility is the other kind of fantasy.

It is beyond me to think that someone as young as any of these pitchers can have the self-confidence (arrogance? chutzah? onions?) to actually go out there and throw the pitch. I think that's more remarkable than any play or score.

Hmmm...how can I say this without sounding like an arrogant jerk...let's see...ahhh, I got it!

Well duh. :rolleyes:

;)
Aint the toughest thing some kids get to do.

The question is: Is the curse dead? Or did the Bambino spend the last 3 games eating hot dogs with hookers?

I guess we will know when the Red Sox are up a run in the bottom of the 9th.:D

I don't know what all the fuss is about. Before the series started, I figured NY had to win one in Boston and 3 out of 4 in NY in order to take the series. After the Yankees win tonight, that will be it.

You mean, " how can I say this sounding less like an..."

Geeze, that's not very nice.

Sooooo....I wonder what's on the Discovery channel tonight...

Pedro in the 7th? God, I hate Francona.

6 runs versus 6 outs to shut up the Bambino.

He can't come back for the 8th, ...can he? :eek:

Bellhorn!!!!

Make that 7 runs.:D

SOX WIN! SOX WIN! HOLY COW! :D

To quote the great Jack Buck....


I DON'T BELIEVE....WHAT I JUST SAW ! ! ! !

Me too! But it worked out ok, didn't it! Wow! What aseries...glad the monkey is off Boston's back - now we'll see what little Georgie-boy does this winter!!

This has to be one of the worst managerial moves in the history of baseball. Why energize the crowd when you are up by 7 and don't need Pedro. Save him for the WS.

The only thing I could think of is that Francona was trying to give Pedro a confidence boost. If he goes in and has a great inning, then he is the man again. But that didn't happen, so now how does he feel? Like they won despite him?

His reincarnation was sitting on the NY bench due to a "tumor/intestinal parasite" most likely caused by steriod abuse.
That is where the blame has to fall for NY's loss. Both the steriod abuse of the player and the failure of the front office to check him out before inking him to a huge contract were serious mistakes.

Their other steroid user going belly up the last four games had much more to do with it.;)

The Curse is supposedly that the BoSox will never win a World Series- not beat the Yankees. The Sox have beaten the Yankees a few times since 1918 but haven't won a Series. Iow, the Curse is still alive today, and will be until they win the Big One.

OK guys and gals. This pains me to no end to say this but the better team won the AL title. After the Yankees were up 3-0, I told my son (who btw is a Yankee hater) that if the Yankees can't beat Boston once in the remaining 4 games, they don't deserve to be in the WS. Guess I was right.

Come on St. Louis!

Somebody on Fox wondered out loud if Pedro asked to get into the game, as a chance to redeem himself. That makes some sense, but a good manager would've said "No, we'll need you Saturday".

Great night. Great week.

Never been done. Feel's great.

Four more to go.

In 4th place, and only 10 points behind the leader, I'm thinking about taking the Jets in my fb pool, when no-one else will, to earn a bunch of free points.

Re: Re: Re: Re: This is gettin' better!
 

White Zin? Slightly chilled and served in a flute? And maybe a little tofu with it? And some of those nice bean sprouts?

Whatinthehell do you think I am? A Bah-stan fan?

White Zin? Oh, my!
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Sometimes I visit JR just for the free beer. :D He knows how to pick 'em.

You kidding?

You honestly think that the Sox can win a World Series?

In your lifetime?

I thought your wife had talked you into cutting back a little on the HappyHerb useage. Apparently not.
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Sometimes I visit JR just for the free beer. :D He knows how to pick 'em. [/B][/QUOTE]Man, I just don't know what to believe any more. I knew Chuck was gonna celebrate last night---- but this?

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My world, as I knew it, is over!

Man, I just don't know what to believe any more. I knew Chuck was gonna celebrate last night---- but this?

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My world, as I knew it, is over! [/B][/QUOTE]

Sigh...me too. Congrats to all you Sox fans out there.

Anywho, life goes on, and as JR already said so does the curse.

Congrats to all you Sox fans out there.

Anywho, life goes on, and as JR already said so does the curse.
[/B][/QUOTE]What Dan said to all of the Sox fans. We got out-pitched, out-hit and out-defensed. That's all she wrote.

The only problem is now the little guy has got bragging rights until next October. Please Lord, don't let 'em win a World Series now too. I know that You got a sense of humor, but that would be taking it just a little bit too far.

Man, I just don't know what to believe any more. I knew Chuck was gonna celebrate last night---- but this?

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My world, as I knew it, is over! [/B][/QUOTE]

Woody -- you have WAY, way way too much time on your hands. SHouldn't you be working some 4th grade football or something?

quoted from MSN:

Elsewhere, 29 people were arrested at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst after revelers threw beer cans and flaming toilet paper at police.

Chuck, I hope Kath has come and baled you out by now!

*PREDICTION*
 

Lemme see now; how do we want this to work out?

Houston? Nah, can't pull for any team with Roger Clemens on it. I normally like the underdog- but Houston?

St. Louis? Whoa!!! Absolutely cannot stand the Perfessor- Tony La Russa. Guy had a picture of George Will with a farm animal, I think, and made Will portray him as some kind of genius in his book <i>Men At Work</i>, and he's been living off that portrayal ever since. Never mind that he won ONE(1) World Series with Oakland when he had the players to win 4 or 5 in a row, and he's never won anything else anywhere since. And he needed a freaking earthquake to help him win the one damned Series that he did win.

That leaves Boston.

Like hell it does!

Only thing left to do is hope for a BoSox/Cardinals series. I'll still be pissed off that one of them will win, but it will tempered somewhat by the thought that the other one lost.

Best I can do.

Your predictions?

Since the Red Sox have destroyed my 11 yr old son's dreams of the Yankees winning the World Series this year, am I correct in assuming that this thread will not be over until the end of the World Series.

MTD, Sr.

Mark T.,
I would expect this thread to continue until the Cubs win the World Series, ... and then continue from there.
mick

Hey Mark, tell your son not to worry. Being a Yankee fan waiting for a World Series win is like being a Florida resident waiting for the next hurricane.

What happened this year is a mere setback, a bump in the road, an anomaly, a perturbation, a freak of nature, a statistically remote outcome, just one of those things.

It's not like he's a Red Sox fan and will have to wait another 86 years (and counting) for his team to win a world series.

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SEE YOU IN BOSTON!!!!
 

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Peace

Birds on a stick.
Black masks.
Gotta be bad guys.
mick

Not only has she "baled" him out, she also "bailed" him out. Sorry, the Yankees losing made me cranky!

Turkey in the straw, turkey in the straw.
Turkey in the hay, turkey in the hay....

If this really happened, "baling" is what Chuck should get!

If this really happened, "baling" is what Chuck should get! [/B][/QUOTE]Hmmmmm. That might be a mis-stook.

No need. As Dan will tell you, I'm very quick on my feet. I got away before the cops got there. Actually, Kath and I enjoyed the game at home. Lots of calls to my cell around midnight, too :)

There's a whole lot of sour grapes being squished in this thread. Let it suffice to say that I'm not going respond, gloat or brag. It's enough that we won. Seven down, four to go.

Chuck, you still need to learn how to really enjoy the "fun" things that happen in life- those moments that may never come around again. Respond, gloat, brag.... we can take it.

Might be a good idea to buy a remote car-starter though.

Geeze, you would sure squash a helluvalot of moldy grapes all at once that way.

Manny!

Belhorn!

The slide wasn't even necessary. I don't know why so many outfielders to this. It's almost always unnecessary. At least Manny finally got a couple RBIs.

Yeah, I particularly liked the RBI he got when he went into his home run trot on the single that he hit. The one where he hopped, pointed, kissed his own ring.....before running. You know, the one where he coulda taken second easy on the throw home, but because he was barely past first, he almost got thrown out trying to go to 2nd and then having to return to first. Woulda been thrown out if somebody on the Cards hadda covered first.

Manny. :D

Yeah, I see your point. BTW, how many RBIs did Sheffield have last night?

Good question.

BTW, how many WS have the Red Sox been in this century...

...let's take a look...

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/hi...e=recaps_index

hmmm...not a lot going on there for team Red Sox.

Heeheeheehee.....

Btw, not to be critical, and knowing that we didn't do it either, but can't anybody figger out that if you have a one legged pitcher, maybe- just maybe- you oughta bunt a little on him?

So the Sox haven't been in the Series in their last 20 years. The Yankees weren't in the Series in their first 20 years. So what? They're both irrelevant. JR wants to talk smack about Manny. My only point is that at least Manny's still playing, while New York is resting on its laurels from years past :)

The Red Sox are only 20 year old??

Someone should tell Bucky Dent.

I just finished up Logic class for the day; you're going to have to do better than that. You talked about "this century". I grant you "this century" plus about 16 more years. Sox haven't even been in a World Series. But the Yankees weren't even [/i]in[/i] a World Series while the Sox were winning 5 of the first 15 of them, over a similar roughly-20-year period to open the previous century. Neither point is relevant to the bottom line, which is. . .

that the Sox are still playing this year, while the Yankees are not, which is enormously satisfying. Addtionally, the Yankees are not playing as a direct result of the Red Sox, which is even more satisfying. But not quite satistying enough. Nine down. . .

When I said "this century" I meant *THIS* century, ie the century we now find ourselves in ie the years 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 & 2004.

Obviously you mistook my use of the term *THIS* century to mean *LAST* century, which is understandable...I guess...and explains why you are so obsessed with the years in & around World War 1.

Anywho, now that we've gotten that mess cleared up...the bottom line remains if you give enough monkeys with enough typewrites enough time one of them will eventually recreate every lyric ever written by Neil Sedaka, in chronological order.

The point being if the obvious historical trends continue we won't have to wait long for NY to have another WS appearance...something not as easily said for team Red Sox.

Neither point is relevant to the bottom line, which is. . .

that the Sox are still playing this year, while the Yankees are not, which is enormously satisfying. Addtionally, the Yankees are not playing as a direct result of the Red Sox, which is even more satisfying. [/B][/QUOTE]Yer cute when you gloat.

Told ya that it feels good, didn't I?

Btw, what's do Manny and Michael Jackson have in common?
Answer: They both wear a glove for no real reason!

Yer cute when you gloat.

Told ya that it feels good, didn't I?

Btw, what's do Manny and Michael Jackson have in common?
Answer: They both wear a glove for no real reason! [/B][/QUOTE]

Q: Why did Michael Jackson go to K Mart?
A: He heard they had small boys pants half off.

Q: What does Michael Jackson think of when he sees a boy in a McDonald's suit?
A: A happy meal.

Q: Why does Michael Jackson want to move to Ohio?
A: He heard there's a Youngstown there.

I did not mistook it! I said that the Sox haven't been in the World Series in "this century" plus 16 years. That would be blatently false if I were talking about the 20th century.


So that's where all those posts from "Dan_ref" come from!!

That may be true, but that's not the point. That's what New York fans say instead of the Cubbies' refrain of "We'll get 'em next year." The point, indeed the point of the entire baseball season, is to play in (and win) the World Series this year. The Red Sox may; the Yankees won't. For once, Red Sox fans don't have to talk about waiting for another shot.

I didn't want to gloat. I intended my only gloat to be the Sheffield reference after you bad-mouthed Manny. But Dan goaded me into pointing out the obvious.


I liked the feeling of winning the series about 1,000,000 times more than talking about it afterwords. Gloating is overrated by people who win. Winning is underrated by people who lose.

Hardy-har-har. Let's see, I heard this with Chuck Knobloch's name instead of Manny's; I heard this with Bill Buckner's name instead of Manny's; maybe even Canseco, after the ball bounced off his head for a HR. . .

Somebody needs new material. ;)

Manny Ramirez is trying to graduate high school. His teacher says if you solve this math problem, you can graduate: What is 14-3? Manny says 8, and the rest of the Red Sox say, "give him another chance, give him another chance!" So the teacher says "Okay, what is 7+7?" Manny says 10. The team members say "give him another chance!" The teacher says, "OK, what is 3x3?" Manny says 9, and the rest of the Red Sox say "give him another chance, give him another chance!"
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Albert Einstein is at a party and he's surrounded by a small crowd of admirers. He introduces himself to the first member of the group, and asks, "What is your IQ?"

The man answers, "191."

"Wonderful!" says Einstein. "We will talk about the Grand Unification Theory and the mysteries of the universe. We will have much to discuss!"

Albert then turns to a woman and asks, "What's your IQ?"

She responds, "123."

"Ah!" says Albert. "We can discuss politics and current affairs. We, too, have much to discuss!"

Einstein then notices a third member of the group and again inquires about the man's IQ. This time the answer is "62." The great physicist ponders for a moment, then brightens and says, "GO RED SOX!"
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Q: A Red Sox fan and a Patriot fan jump off a bridge. Who lands first?

A: Who cares?
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A Boston native dies and is sent to Hell. The Devil tries to make him as uncomfortable as possible, maintaining a temperature of 100 degrees, but the man does not seem to mind.

"How can you be comfortable?" the Devil asks.

"I used to spend my summers on the Cape," the man replies. "This feels just like June. I can handle this."

"Very well then," says the Devil, and he turns the heat up to 130 degrees.

"No problem," answers the man. "My studio apartment was $2000 a month, so I couldn't afford an air conditioner. This feels just like July."

"Have it your way," says the Devil, and he turns the heat up to 180 degrees.

"Big deal," says the man, still unfazed. "I used to sit in the bleachers at Fenway Park. This feels just like August."

The Devil thinks for a moment, then decides to reduce the temperature to minus-50. At this, the man smiles, and starts jumping up and down and shouting happily.

"What now?" asks the Devil.

"Hell froze over!" the man yells triumphantly. "The Red Sox must have finally won the World Series!"

You don't? I realize that you have a major advantage because La Russa is managing the Cards, but aren't you taking just a little bit for granted? The <i>Curse</i> lives until you win a World Series. You may be waiting for another shot yet!

No, this is our shot. Nobody, least of all me, thinks this is over. Especially since St. Louis hasn't lost at home in the playoffs. Especially since we know that a team can come back, even from 0-3. But finally, our guys get to fight for all the marbles.

Yabut, if by some weird quirk of fate(like a CURSE :eek: ), the Sox do happen to lose, aren't you and the other Red Sox fans gonna HAVE to wait for another shot? Again?

Is that logic course you're taking called "Convoluted Logic 101 for BoSox Fans"? With "Convoluted Logic 201 for BoSox Fans" only being planned to be put on the curriculum IF or WHEN they ever win a World Series?

yea, but right now, they're in their " 'nother shot". So they're not waiting for it. They're shooting. So to speak.

Reminds me of a girls' basketball team here in Portland, Lake Oswego, who actually beat the Oregon City girls' team. It was the first time Oregon City had been beaten during the regular season for like five years or something. The paper next morning quoted the L.O. coach as saying, "It doesn't matter what happens the rest of the year. We've beaten Oregon City." When you're in the middle of it, you are allowed to just bask, even if it doesn't lead to anything else.

Isn't it time to close this thread now?

I think it should stay open for a few more days. Hopefully, we can close it after tonight's game. 10 down. . .

(BTW, I don't see any smack about Manny's defense today)

The curse is dead!:D

Ok, wake up, Dan. :D

As much as it pains me to do so, I have to congratulate the Bosox. Can't believe they swept the Cards -- and I don't think any Bosox fans truly thought they would sweep the series either.

The fat lady is singing.

Loud and clear, baby.

Every 86 years, Chuck and his friends get together to celebrate a World Series win.

Enjoy it, Chuck.

Damn straight we do. :D

All of the Sox jokes above remind me of a Rick Reilly SI column that a friend of mine (Mets fan) dug up during the ALCS. One of the comparisons:

The hardest three year span for a Mets fan was the 1977-79 seasons. The hardest three years of a Yankees' fan's life was the third grade.

Yeah yeah yeah.

Enjoy:

Yogi Berra Fields Some Questions
Watching the World Series with a baseball legend.

BY ALLEN BARRA
Thursday, October 28, 2004 12:01 a.m.

LITTLE FALLS, N.J.--It's a lucky few who get to visit a museum and talk with the person it's named after. As Yogi Berra himself said at the 1998 dedication of the Yogi Berra Museum and Learning Center here: "This is a great honor. Usually you have to be dead to get something like this."
For the third year in a row, several dozen baseball fans and supporters of the museum gathered in the museum's amphitheater Tuesday night to watch the third game of the World Series, this year between the Boston Red Sox and St. Louis Cardinals, with Yogi. (The event is open to the public and advertised through the museum's Web site, its mailing list and the Yankees Web site; the charge is $250 a seat, most of which is tax deductible as a donation.) The theater is designed to look like the bleachers at Yankee Stadium, only, as Yogi says, "It's warmer in here and the language is nicer."

The house that Yogi built, as the sign at the entrance announces, is on the campus of Montclair State University. The building covers nearly 7,300 square feet and is on the first-base line of the Yogi Berra Stadium, a charming minor league ballpark that is home to both the Montclair State Red Hawks and the New Jersey Jackals of the Independent Northeast League.

With interiors designed by Frank Cirillo, former director of exhibits and design for the Baseball Hall of Fame, the museum includes , among other displays, a tribute to the Negro Leagues housed in the Larry Doby gallery (named for the Hall of Famer who was the first black player in the American League and a close friend of Yogi's for nearly half a century); the Yankee cow from the 2000 Cow Parade, autographed by numerous Yankees; life-size statues of Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig; scores of autographed balls and bats; Yogi's record 10 World Series rings; the bronzed mitt Yogi used to catch Don Larsen's perfect game in the 1956 World Series.

Celebrity, a tribute to Berra's unique status in American culture, showcases Yogi figurines, comic books, cereal boxes, magazine covers, and even Berra's cartoon namesake, Yogi Bear. There are also hundreds of historic photos of baseball greats from every era, including many of Yogi with other Hall of Famers and several American presidents. "Every time I walk through here I see pictures of me I've never seen before."

There are plans for expanding the museum that could eventually double its size, creating space for interactive projects for visiting schoolchildren. There are also plans for a broadcast studio to be operated by Montclair State. But as Dave Kaplan, director of programs and education, puts it, "Our major resource is Yogi."

Between innings of Tuesday night's game, the man Billy Crystal once called "a wonderful piece of American folk art" fielded questions as deftly as he once handled Whitey Ford's curve ball while his vivacious wife, Carmen, served cookies to the fans in the "cheap seats."
Q: "Yogi, who's your favorite catcher in the game today?"

A: "The guy on Detroit, 'Pudge' Rodriguez. He's built like me. I don't like tall catchers."

Q: "Yogi, who are you rooting for in the World Series?"

A: "The St. Louis Cardinals. They're my hometown team."

(From Carmen Berra: "You shouldn't root for them, they didn't sign you.")

Q: "Yogi, what did Ted Williams say to you when you tired to distract him by talking?"

A: "He'd say, 'Shut up, you little Dago.' " ("But," adds Yogi, "Ted was a great guy.")

Q: "Yogi, what kind of padding did you use in your glove to keep your hand from getting sore when you were catching?"

A: "I used to stick a 'falsie' in the glove. It was perfect."

("I had to go buy them for him," said Carmen. "He was too shy.")

Q: "Yogi, what's your lowest golf score?"

A: "You mean now?" (When asked what he meant by "now," Mr. Berra replied, "You mean what do I shoot now, or back when I could really play golf?" His best score, he says, was 78.)

Q: "Yogi, if you had to pick a guy in this year's World Series who looks the least like a player in your own time, who would it be?"

A: "Johnny Damon. He looks like that guy, what was that movie about trying to escape from New York?" (Kurt Russell in "Escape From New York," someone tells him.) "Yeah, that guy."

Q: "Yogi, one of the most famous plays in baseball history was in the first game of the 1955 World Series when Jackie Robinson stole home while you were catching. Do you still say--"

A: "OUT!!!!! He was out!"

Q: "But after watching the replay in slow motion--"

A: "OUT!!! I've seen the replays. He's still out."

In the fifth inning, when the Red Sox went up 4-0, someone asked Yogi if he thought they could replace the Yankees as baseball's No. 1 dynasty. "I don't know," he replied. "If they win about 20 more, I might get worried."
Also on hand for the evening was George Roy, producer of "The Curse of The Bambino," a documentary detailing 80-odd years of Red Sox frustration. As the Red Sox were poised to go ahead of the Cardinals three games to none in the Series, one guest asked Roy if he believed in "The Curse." "No," answered Roy, an avid Red Sox fan. "It's just been a combination of an odd, unpredictable ballpark, bad front-office decisions and just plain bad luck." What then, someone else wanted to know, if the Cardinals came back to win the Series? "Then," replied Roy, glancing over at Yogi, "I'll rethink it."

"Yogi," someone asked toward the end of the evening, "is this going to become an annual event?"

"Well, yeah," replied the Hall of Famer, "if we do it every year."

Mr. Barra writes about sports for The Wall Street Journal.


Copyright © 2004 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Nice article, Dan. Why do they gather specifically to watch Game 3 every year?

Can't believe they bronzed Yogi's mitt from Larsen's perfecto. I would think they'd have wanted to keep it exactly as it was.


When the Sox won the first World Series at the beginning of the last century, they went on to win 5 out of the next 15. Now that they've won one at the beginning of this century, maybe we can look forward to 5 more by the time Molly graduates from college in 2016.

Celebrity, a tribute to Berra's unique status in American culture, showcases Yogi figurines, comic books, cereal boxes, magazine covers, and even <font color = red>Berra's cartoon namesake, Yogi Bear</font>.

[/B][/QUOTE]Aaaaargh. Wrong, wrong,wrong.....

The cartoon Yogi didn't come along for at least 10-12 years after Berra got his nickname. A friend of Larry Berra saw a movie that had an Indian snake charmer- also called a <i>yogi</i>- in it. He said that the snake charmer walked just like his buddy, Larry, and he started calling Larry- <i>Yogi</i>. It caught on and he was Yogi Berra ever since. When Yogi Bear came along, the rumor was that Yogi Berra was actually <b>his</b> namesake. Iow, t'was the other way around.

"namesake n. a person having the same name as another" (The New Lexicon Webster's Dictionary of the English Language, Encylopedic Edition, 1989)

or

"one that has the same name as another; especially : one who is named after another or for whom another is named" (www.m-w.com).

Being a namesake doesn't imply that a person is named after another. It can mean that they simply share a name. Or it can mean that the other person was named for the original person.

Aaaaargh. Wrong, wrong,wrong.....

The cartoon Yogi didn't come along for at least 10-12 years after Berra got his nickname. A friend of Larry Berra saw a movie that had an Indian snake charmer- also called a <i>yogi</i>- in it. He said that the snake charmer walked just like his buddy, Larry, and he started calling Larry- <i>Yogi</i>. It caught on and he was Yogi Berra ever since. When Yogi Bear came along, the rumor was that Yogi Berra was actually <b>his</b> namesake. Iow, t'was the other way around. [/B][/QUOTE]

I always thought that Lawrence practiced "yoga".
mick

Thanks for the info, Dick.

Dick? His name is Ch....ooooooooohhhhh, hold on here....I get it! I like that, very subtle!

About as subtle as blowing a 3-0 lead in a playoff series. I was just trying to help, and see what I get.

Just out of curiosity, how is the ALCS loss being portrayed in the NY media? I heard a national radio talk show host (FOX radio) describe it as the biggest choke job of all time. Is the NY media being that hard on the Yankees? Are they sloughing it off as a lucky statistical anomoly?

Personally, I think that calling it a huge choke job denigrates the effort of the Red Sox. But obviously, I have a huge bias.

Yeah, the NY media is so insulated from the outside world I can see how you might be confused on their current thinking, Dick.

BTW, the NY media is having a hard time getting news from the outside...did the local police celebrate by killing any more college students up your way? Or was that a once in 2 lifetimes type thing as well?

Just out of curiosity, how is the ALCS loss being portrayed in the NY media? I heard a national radio talk show host (FOX radio) describe it as the biggest choke job of all time. Is the NY media being that hard on the Yankees? Are they sloughing it off as a lucky statistical anomoly?

[/B][/QUOTE]From what I've read, the general feeling in NY seems to be that Boston was a completely worthy winner- which was my feeling also. It was more a matter of the BoSox SLIGHTLY outplaying the Yankees than the Yankees choking. The real choking dog was the Professor in St. Louis, as usual. LaRussa is just a whining little turkey, imo. Genius? Bah! Most newspapers around the country seemed to agree with that also. There was a good story by Harvey Araton in the NY Times this morning that seemed to better sum up how most NY fans feel about Boston winning. I'll dig up a link and post it.

There was a good story by Harvey Araton in the NY Times this morning that seemed to better sum up how most NY fans feel about Boston winning. I'll dig up a link and post it. [/B][/QUOTE]You may need to log in to read this- but it's a good story.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/28/sp...tml?oref=login

Believe it or not, we've been a little too busy up here hugging everybody we know to run out and get hooked up with Direct TV, just so we can watch Mike and the Mad Dog. And since the Post and Daily News don't get delivered to my door, I thought maybe somebody a little closer to the Bronx might have a better feel for the current mood than I do.

Maybe you're a little grumpier than usual b/c of recent events in the Stadium, but that's not really a joking subject. It was an accident and a tragedy, especially b/c it resulted from a "non-lethal" instrument.

I would agree with that

I would agree with that, too. They just didn't even show up. You wonder how they won 105 games with those pitchers.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChuckElias
[B]Lah me, Chuckie, the internet is a wonderful thing:

http://www.nypost.com/sports/sports.shtml

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/index.html

Bookmark 'em. NY Times is on line too- papers from Detroit, Boston, Chicago, LA, Houghton, Springfield- all the major centers.

Howinthell did you think that I found out about the latest find on one of your ancestors- <i>Flores Man</i>?

As long as we're wandering off topic, here's a sort of joke.

Kid to friend: I was named after Horatio Alger.

Friend: How do you figure? You're name is Johnny!

Kid: Well I sure wasn't named before him!

Ha... ha... ha...

As JR already mentioned, there's this cool thing called the internet. Check it out. Which leaves the question begging an answer: if you're too busy hugging each other to get your direct tv how do you know Mike & the Mad Dog appear on TV?

Maybe you're a little grumpier than usual b/c of recent events in the Stadium, but that's not really a joking subject. It was an accident and a tragedy, especially b/c it resulted from a "non-lethal" instrument. [/B][/QUOTE]

I'll take that as a yes, it is just another once in 2 lifetimes events that shock us.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias Quote: Originally posted by Dan_ref And since the Post and Daily News don't get delivered to my door, I thought maybe somebody a little closer to the Bronx might have a better feel for the current mood than I do. Lah me, Chuckie, the internet is a wonderful thing: http://www.nypost.com/sports/sports.shtml http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/index.html Bookmark 'em. NY Times is on line too- papers from Detroit, Boston, Chicago, LA, Houghton, Springfield- all the major centers. Howinthell did you think that I found out about the latest find on one of your ancestors- <i>Flores Man</i>?

Geeze JR, just what in the world could you be talking about here? Please, oh please please please tell us ...what is this <i>Flores Man</i> you speak of????

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Happy Birthday Woody!

You mean Chuck didn't tell you about the big news that he just got on his ancestors?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4127713

And I thought you were kidding when you told me that he was a Hobbit. Who woulda thunk it?

"Wandering off topic." Surely you jest?

NEWS FLASH!
 

This just in. The Boston Red Sox lost their championship parade today in the bottom of the ninth when a duck boat driven by Manny Ramirez went through Bill Buckner's legs.

Details to follow.....

Film at 11.....

The parade was a tremendous success today. I watched some of it from home before my scrimmage. Looked like everyone had a great time. My partner got a call from his buddy who was there. The sounded like he was having the best time of his life. Pretty funny. And even if you don't like the Red Sox or parades, a woman jumped into the Charles River naked. So there was something for everyone.

Now that there are no more games, here's a trivia question for the Yankee fans out there. Who is the only Yankee player to wear both uniform #3 and uniform #7 during his career?

Wow. Great question, give me a little time to dig up the answer. Whoever it was had to be on the team between '35 & '48 I think. In the meantime, enjoy this picture I stumbled upon:

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/p...54_2003/09.jpg

So. . . give up?

The immortal Cliff Mapes.

Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! But can a .242 career hitter be "immortal"?

I was going to ask which is the only number to be retired in honor of two different players. That's probalby an easy one for you, JR.

But then I got to thinking that since every team has now retired Jackie Robinson's 42, maybe one of those teams had already retired it in honor of another player.

Any idea if any team has #42 retired for somebody other than Jackie Robinson? And -- other than #42 -- what's the only number retired in honor of two different players?

Why did every team do that?
Doesn't feel exactly right.
mick