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zebraman Thu Sep 30, 2004 08:34am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
On a non-Yankee/Sox topic, has anybody heard details of the Cleveland pitcher that got shot while riding on the team bus? I guess the guy was shot in the leg and the Indian trainers were able to get the bullet out. But did the shot come from outside the bus? Or inside the bus? Anybody know?
I heard on the radio this morning that it came from outside the bus. Quite a few bullets were sprayed..lucky that only one got hit.

Z

Jurassic Referee Thu Sep 30, 2004 08:36am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
On a non-Yankee/Sox topic, has anybody heard details of the Cleveland pitcher that got shot while riding on the team bus? I guess the guy was shot in the leg and the Indian trainers were able to get the bullet out. But did the shot come from outside the bus? Or inside the bus? Anybody know?
I know, I know!!

The shot came from outside the bus, went through the pantleg of one player and hit pitcher- Ryan Denney- in the calf. Here comes the weird part--- Denny was wearing a USC girls cheerleading outfit when he got hit, including high, white boots. The bullet was slowed down by the boots or his injury woulda been much worse. Trainers dug the bullet out before taking him to emergency.

Jurassic Referee Thu Sep 30, 2004 08:42am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Not to worry, it will get better once Pedro gets a start.
Maybe it's just me, but how hard can it really be to take a pitcher out of a game?


About as hard as it is to field a routine ground ball to 1B in the 6th. game of the World Series?

Dan_ref Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:39am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Not to worry, it will get better once Pedro gets a start.
Maybe it's just me, but how hard can it really be to take a pitcher out of a game? Is there some Jedi mind trick that Yankee fans use on Boston managers that makes them allow Pedro to stay in a game?

We lost a pennant b/c Grady Little couldn't say "Pedro, you're done." Last night, we lost just about any shot at the division b/c Francona couldn't say "Pedro, you're done." Well, I guess he said it, b/c they had the reliever all warmed up. But then Pedro talked him into letting him start the next inning and he gives up another couple runs.

I just don't get it. Everybody in the world outside the Boston dugout knows that Pedro can not go more than 6 innings anymore. He just can't. But they keep leaving him out there to get battered. His September has been horrible. He's not going to snap out of it with 2 more innings against the Devil Rays. AAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!

And your little doggy, too...

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Jurassic Referee Thu Sep 30, 2004 09:27pm

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R.I.P. BoSox!

Dan_ref Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:15pm

100 wins.

Not too shabby.

ChuckElias Thu Sep 30, 2004 10:30pm

I think R.I.P. is a little premature. We'll get one more shot at you.

dblref Fri Oct 01, 2004 05:14am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
I think R.I.P. is a little premature. We'll get one more shot at you.
7 in a row!! This is getting almost as good as the Cowboys vs Redskins. Can you say 13 out of 14?

Jurassic Referee Fri Oct 01, 2004 06:45am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
I think R.I.P. is a little premature. We'll get one more shot at you.
Yeah, you're probably right about the premature part. The Yanks have the best record in the AL, but Boston does own the second best record- even though they are the wild card. You never can tell in these short playoff series either too. If either Minnesota or Oakland/Anaheim gets hot, both of us could disappear in a hurry. Hope not though- Yankees/BoSox is always great theater. And fun.

ChuckElias Fri Oct 01, 2004 07:22am

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Yeah, you're probably right about the premature part. The Yanks have the best record in the AL, but Boston does own the second best record- even though they are the wild card. You never can tell in these short playoff series
Exactly. The Marlins have proved that twice now.

ChuckElias Fri Oct 01, 2004 07:23am

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Here comes the weird part--- Denny was wearing a USC girls cheerleading outfit when he got hit, including high, white boots. The bullet was slowed down by the boots or his injury woulda been much worse. Trainers dug the bullet out before taking him to emergency.
I thought you were kidding about this!!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1891804

Nevadaref Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:36pm

Well, Mt. St. Helens seems to have woken up again. Hopefully, for our friends in the Pacific Northwest it will be minor. Best wishes to all of you up that way and we would certainly like to hear your thoughts on today.

ChuckElias Mon Oct 04, 2004 09:13am

Boy, those western divisions sure know how to end a season, don't they?

Jurassic Referee Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:16pm

As promised.....
 
Gotta hope for Yankees/BoSox in the ALCS. More fun that way. Makes for a shorter and happier(for us) off-season if we can bug the Chuckster every day or so. :D

Btw, St. Louis reminds me of us when it comes to pitching. If they run into a hot pitching staff, they could go out early- even with the thunder and lightning that they have.

Dan_ref Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:46pm


NY/Anaheim, STL/Houston

NY beats STL in 6.

I don't have much faith in Boston's chances being led by Manny "Gawd-we're-just-happy-to-get-in-the-stadium-without-paying-for-a-ticket" Ramirez vs the Angels who were all but given up for dead a few weeks ago.

STL might or might not have a problem with pitching but they do have Tony LaRussa.


Jurassic Referee Mon Oct 04, 2004 01:46pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref

STL might or might not have a problem with pitching but they do have Tony LaRussa.


Tony LaRussa? THE Tony LaRussa? The guy that wone ONE(1)(uno)(ein) World Series in Oakland when he shoulda won 4/5 in a row with the team he had? And also never won anything else in his life? Ever? That Tony LaRussa?

Not my favorite manager- fer sure. Every year he moans and whines about all the other teams throwing at his poor players. And every year his teams either lead or are usually in the Top 5 in hitting players on the other team. And all that kissy/feely stuff about stray dogs and cats? Wassup with that? Hell, a lot of us love stray dogs and cats. They are delicious.

Bah, humbug!




rockyroad Mon Oct 04, 2004 01:53pm

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
Well, Mt. St. Helens seems to have woken up again. Hopefully, for our friends in the Pacific Northwest it will be minor. Best wishes to all of you up that way and we would certainly like to hear your thoughts on today.
I live about 25 miles from St. Helen's (as the crow flies), and it's nothing major - yet! Went off again this morning, but so far no magma involved...mostly steam and small amounts of ash...and as far as the baseball playoffs go, all I can say is I-Chi-Ro!! I-Chi-Ro!!! It's the small victories that we cling to in a season like this last one...

Jurassic Referee Mon Oct 04, 2004 01:56pm

[QUOTE]Originally posted by rockyroad
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[i]

...and as far as the baseball playoffs go, all I can say is I-Chi-Ro!! I-Chi-Ro!!! It's the small victories that we cling to in a season like this last one...

Don't forget Edgar Martinez. The guy was just a consumate pro, imo.

Dan_ref Mon Oct 04, 2004 02:05pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Dan_ref

STL might or might not have a problem with pitching but they do have Tony LaRussa.


Tony LaRussa? THE Tony LaRussa? The guy that wone ONE(1)(uno)(ein) World Series in Oakland when he shoulda won 4/5 in a row with the team he had? And also never won anything else in his life? Ever? That Tony LaRussa?

Calm down calm down calm down....now, go back & reread what I wrote. I'll wait here the half hour or so it'll take you to comprehend it.

tick tick tick tick tick....

Oh great! You're back! OK....now, did you happen to see I picked your favorite manager to yet again not win it all?

But you have to agree LaRussa has a lot more experience not winning it than...errr...Walter Alston...? No that's not it...Tommy Lasorda...??? No no, not him either...well, anyway, LaRussa's got a lot more expererience not winning it than (whoeverthehellismanagingthedodgersthesedays) has at managing period.

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Not my favorite manager- fer sure. Every year he moans and whines about all the other teams throwing at his poor players. And every year his teams either lead or are usually in the Top 5 in hitting players on the other team. And all that kissy/feely stuff about stray dogs and cats? Wassup with that? Hell, a lot of us love stray dogs and cats. They are delicious.

Bah, humbug!


Didjya ever notice you never see a stray cat behind a chinese take out restaurant? Why is that?

Dan_ref Mon Oct 04, 2004 02:10pm

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Originally posted by rockyroad
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Originally posted by Nevadaref
Well, Mt. St. Helens seems to have woken up again. Hopefully, for our friends in the Pacific Northwest it will be minor. Best wishes to all of you up that way and we would certainly like to hear your thoughts on today.
I live about 25 miles from St. Helen's (as the crow flies), and it's nothing major - yet! Went off again this morning, but so far no magma involved...mostly steam and small amounts of ash...and as far as the baseball playoffs go, all I can say is I-Chi-Ro!! I-Chi-Ro!!! It's the small victories that we cling to in a season like this last one...

Yeah I'll have the sushi, a hot sake, and could you bring me some I-Chi-Ro please?

:p

btw, I think what he did is great! He isn't getting nearly the attention he deserves.

ChuckElias Mon Oct 04, 2004 02:12pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Manny "Gawd-we're-just-happy-to-get-in-the-stadium-without-paying-for-a-ticket" Ramirez
I've been sticking up for Manny for the last couple years. I hope you mean this as a joke, b/c if not, you just really don't have any idea about him. He is a different personality, no question. But he is just as dedicated and wants to win just as much as anybody on the Yankees. In New York, you probably don't get to see how hard he's worked on his defense and how much improved his "hustle" is. Yes, he's overpaid (even by MLB standards), but any team would be happy to have him. And if they say they wouldn't, then they're lying or stupid. JMHO, as always.

Jurassic Referee Mon Oct 04, 2004 02:17pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
[/b]
1) Calm down calm down calm down....now, go back & reread what I wrote. I'll wait here the half hour or so it'll take you to comprehend it.
tick tick tick tick tick....
Oh great! You're back! OK....now, did you happen to see I picked your favorite manager to yet again not win it all?

2) But you have to agree LaRussa has a lot more experience not winning it than...errr...Walter Alston...? No that's not it...Tommy Lasorda...??? No no, not him either...well, anyway, LaRussa's got a lot more expererience not winning it than (whoeverthehellismanagingthedodgersthesedays) has at managing period.

3) Didjya ever notice you never see a stray cat behind a chinese take out restaurant? Why is that?

[/B][/QUOTE]1) Somebody help me out here, please. I'm not sure, but I'm getting just the tiniest,weeniest-teeniest inkling that maybe my ol' buddy just mighta dumped all over me. Do ya think that that might be a possibility?

2) LaRussa has got a LOT more experience at winning ONE World Series than ANY RedSox manager since 1918.

3) Duh! Because they <b>are</b> delicious?

Jurassic Referee Mon Oct 04, 2004 02:21pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Manny "Gawd-we're-just-happy-to-get-in-the-stadium-without-paying-for-a-ticket" Ramirez
I've been sticking up for Manny for the last couple years. I hope you mean this as a joke, b/c if not, you just really don't have any idea about him. He is a different personality, no question. But he is just as dedicated and wants to win just as much as anybody on the Yankees. In New York, you probably don't get to see how hard he's worked on his defense and how much improved his "hustle" is. Yes, he's overpaid (even by MLB standards), but any team would be happy to have him. And if they say they wouldn't, then they're lying or stupid. JMHO, as always.

Chuck, did you see the story in the Boston Globe this morning? Apparently Manny has gone back to the Dominican for his fall vacation. The BoSox are hoping that he might return by Tuesday. If not Tuesday, then maybe Wednesday. Or Thursday.

PS- Dan? You don't want to see Chuck mad. It is a fearsome, nay dare I say dangerous, sight!
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[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Oct 4th, 2004 at 03:30 PM]

Dan_ref Mon Oct 04, 2004 02:37pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Manny "Gawd-we're-just-happy-to-get-in-the-stadium-without-paying-for-a-ticket" Ramirez
I've been sticking up for Manny for the last couple years. I hope you mean this as a joke, b/c if not, you just really don't have any idea about him. He is a different personality, no question. But he is just as dedicated and wants to win just as much as anybody on the Yankees. In New York, you probably don't get to see how hard he's worked on his defense and how much improved his "hustle" is. Yes, he's overpaid (even by MLB standards), but any team would be happy to have him. And if they say they wouldn't, then they're lying or stupid. JMHO, as always.

Chuck, did you see the story in the Boston Globe this morning? Apparently Manny has gone back to the Dominican for his fall vacation. The BoSox are hoping that he might return by Tuesday. If not Tuesday, then maybe Wednesday. Or Thursday.

PS- Dan? You don't want to see Chuck mad. It is a fearsome, nay dare I say dangerous, sight!
http://www.sodamnfunny.com/Picture/Animal/wormouse.jpg

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Oct 4th, 2004 at 03:30 PM]

Yeah, I've heard that!

In fact there was a rumor going around at camp that CHuck got so mad at a coach he actually crushed an entire grape with his bare hands during dinner after the game.

btw, how long have you been holding onto that link?


Jurassic Referee Mon Oct 04, 2004 02:43pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref

btw, how long have you been holding onto that link?

[/B]
Until an appropriate moment. :D

ChuckElias Mon Oct 04, 2004 03:33pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Chuck, did you see the story in the Boston Globe this morning? Apparently Manny has gone back to the Dominican for his fall vacation.
No. And I just searched ESPN.com and the Globe's website. You got a link?

Nevadaref Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:13am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Boy, those western divisions sure know how to end a season, don't they?
The bay area Giants and A's both miss out on post-season play by a single game and end the season with identical 91-71 records. Strange stuff!

ChuckElias Tue Oct 05, 2004 07:25am

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Chuck, did you see the story in the Boston Globe this morning? Apparently Manny has gone back to the Dominican for his fall vacation.
I saw him taking BP in Anaheim last night. I get it. You're yankin' my chain. That's what I get for trusting an old Yankee-loving, Vioxx-popping codger!! :p

dblref Tue Oct 05, 2004 08:01am

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Originally posted by rockyroad
Quote:

Originally posted by Nevadaref
Well, Mt. St. Helens seems to have woken up again. Hopefully, for our friends in the Pacific Northwest it will be minor. Best wishes to all of you up that way and we would certainly like to hear your thoughts on today.
I live about 25 miles from St. Helen's (as the crow flies), and it's nothing major - yet! Went off again this morning, but so far no magma involved...mostly steam and small amounts of ash...and as far as the baseball playoffs go, all I can say is I-Chi-Ro!! I-Chi-Ro!!! It's the small victories that we cling to in a season like this last one...

Saw in the Washington Post that Melvin(?) was fired yesterday after Mariners had their worst season in 12 years.

My son lives in Olympia and he is a big Mariners fan. During one of my visits 2-3 years ago, the Mariners were having a terrific year. Everywhere we went, I wore my Yankees cap and people were just dogging me left and right. I usually responded by asking them the last time the Mariners won the WS -- in fact, when was the last time they were actually in the WS. No more comments from them. My kids never agree with me. They are both Skins fans and I'm Cowboys, one is Mariners fan other is Orioles fan and I'm Yankees, both are Lakers and I'm Celtics. See Chuck, I'm do root for a Boston team.

Jurassic Referee Tue Oct 05, 2004 08:47am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Chuck, did you see the story in the Boston Globe this morning? Apparently Manny has gone back to the Dominican for his fall vacation.
I saw him taking BP in Anaheim last night. I get it. You're yankin' my chain. That's what I get for trusting an old Yankee-loving, Vioxx-popping codger!! :p

After all these years, I'm amazed when you believe ANYTHING that I say. :D

Btw, is it true what Dan told me? Did you really win a contest and you're gonna be at the opening playoff game at Fenway?

ChuckElias Tue Oct 05, 2004 09:40am

No, but they had a big crowd at the Pahk for "rally night" last night.

ChuckElias Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:41pm

Great day! I guess Manny got back from his vacation just in time. Fun game. Tomorrow will tell the tale of Boston's post-season. If Pedro is solid. . .

<font size = -4 color = white>It doesn't hurt that the Yankees got shut out at home!</font>

Jurassic Referee Wed Oct 06, 2004 06:15am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Great day! I guess Manny got back from his vacation just in time. Fun game. Tomorrow will tell the tale of Boston's post-season. If Pedro is solid. . .

<font size = -4 color = white>It doesn't hurt that the Yankees got shut out at home!</font>

<i>Deja vu</i> all over again. Lost the first one last year too. A mere bag-o-shells though, my dear Watson. But you do have gloating rights for the next day. Use them wisely and well.

Btw, I know they're on the left coast, and that the 10:00pm start out there is really 7:00pm- but...... couldn't they switch the games around so that the Sox started at 4:00pm est or so? Let some of the young un's in New England watch their favorite team lose? Let 'em get used to what life is really like?

ChuckElias Wed Oct 06, 2004 07:55am

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
<i>Deja vu</i> all over again. Lost the first one last year too. A mere bag-o-shells though, my dear Watson. But you do have gloating rights for the next day. Use them wisely and well.
In fact, according to Fox, they've lost the openers in the last 4 post-season series (including last night). They didn't do too bad last year. . .

And I'm not gloating. Just enjoying.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Wed Oct 06, 2004 07:57am

I think that this thread is the Engergizer Bunny in disguise.

MTD, Sr.

ChuckElias Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:28am

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Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
I think that this thread is the Engergizer Bunny in disguise.
It'll slow down in about 3 weeks.

Jurassic Referee Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:42am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
I think that this thread is the Engergizer Bunny in disguise.
It'll slow down in about 3 weeks.

Depends. If the Yankees win, we might go all winter. If the <font color = red>UNTHINKABLE</font> happens, the entire thread will be deleted immediately.

ChuckElias Wed Oct 06, 2004 09:02pm

Ouch. Blown save by Mariano. 62 post-season appearances, and only 3 blown saves. Pretty amazing. But I'm glad he did it tonight.

Jurassic Referee Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:35pm

Whew!!

dblref Thu Oct 07, 2004 07:17am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Ouch. Blown save by Mariano. 62 post-season appearances, and only 3 blown saves. Pretty amazing. But I'm glad he did it tonight.
A little too early being glad. At least everything worked out the way it should. Glad that it was Jeter rather than Posada tagging from 3rd.

ChuckElias Thu Oct 07, 2004 08:38am

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Originally posted by dblref
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Ouch. Blown save by Mariano. 62 post-season appearances, and only 3 blown saves. Pretty amazing. But I'm glad he did it tonight.
A little too early being glad.

Oh, contraire! I'm still glad that he blew the save b/c it caused the Yankee bullpen (and the Twins', too, for that matter) to work an extra 3 innings. I hope the series goes 5 games and the next three all go 12 innings, too. :)

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At least everything worked out the way it should. Glad that it was Jeter rather than Posada tagging from 3rd.
I agree that it was good for the Yankees that it was Jeter on third. But if Posada had been there, don't you think they would've pinch-run for him as soon as he got on base? I mean, he's the winning run. Torre would've had to put some speed on base once Posada reached. I would think.

jritchie Thu Oct 07, 2004 08:41am

feel asleep in between the 12th and bottom of the 12th, missed the whole thing...i thought the yankees were down 2 games this morning till i got to work... :)

Jurassic Referee Thu Oct 07, 2004 08:55am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
[/B]
Oh, contraire! [/B][/QUOTE]That would be "Au contraire", mon petit arbitre ami.

Dan_ref Thu Oct 07, 2004 09:57am

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Chuck, did you see the story in the Boston Globe this morning? Apparently Manny has gone back to the Dominican for his fall vacation.
I saw him taking BP in Anaheim last night. I get it. You're yankin' my chain. That's what I get for trusting an old Yankee-loving, Vioxx-popping codger!! :p

After all these years, I'm amazed when you believe ANYTHING that I say. :D

Btw, is it true what Dan told me? Did you really win a contest and you're gonna be at the opening playoff game at Fenway?

Yeah, I heard Chuck won some contest to go to the game, but I'm not really sure of all the details.

Jurassic Referee Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:05am

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Btw, is it true what Dan told me? Did you really win a contest and you're gonna be at the opening playoff game at Fenway? [/B]
Yeah, I heard Chuck won some contest to go to the game, but I'm not really sure of all the details. [/B][/QUOTE]I heard that the first prize was that Chuck gets to sing the National Anthem before the game.
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ChuckElias Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:09am

Yeah, the loser of the contest has to listen to me sing it.

mick Fri Oct 08, 2004 10:14pm

This is gettin' better!
 
The thread lives.... :cool:

ChuckElias Fri Oct 08, 2004 10:19pm

Timlin did NOT look good. Rivera did.

At least the Sox are into the LCS. Everybody gets some rest.

Jurassic Referee Fri Oct 08, 2004 10:19pm

Re: This is gettin' better!
 
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Originally posted by mick
The thread lives.... :cool:
And woe betide the moderator that darest touch it!! :eek:

Jurassic Referee Fri Oct 08, 2004 10:22pm

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Timlin did NOT look good. Rivera did.

At least the Sox are into the LCS. Everybody gets some rest.

Manny and Pedro left for a little vacation in the Dominican after the game. They said that they'd try to make it back by Tuesday. They didn't say which Tuesday though.

ChuckElias Fri Oct 08, 2004 10:23pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Manny and Pedro left for a little vacation in the Dominican after the game.
What??!?! Where did you read that? I hadn't heard that. . .

Fool me once. . . :p

mick Fri Oct 08, 2004 10:31pm

Re: Re: This is gettin' better!
 
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Originally posted by mick
The thread lives.... :cool:
And woe betide the moderator that darest touch it!! :eek:

Hmmmm.
That seems a bit unnecessarily confrontational.
Have a White Zin. :)
mick

Jurassic Referee Sat Oct 09, 2004 06:41am

Re: Re: Re: This is gettin' better!
 
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Have a White Zin.
[/B][/QUOTE]White Zin? Slightly chilled and served in a flute? And maybe a little tofu with it? And some of those nice bean sprouts?

Whatinthehell do you think I am? A Bah-stan fan?

White Zin? Oh, my!
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ChuckElias Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:12am

Re: Re: Re: Re: This is gettin' better!
 
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
White Zin? Slightly chilled and served in a flute? And maybe a little tofu with it? And some of those nice bean sprouts?

Whatinthehell do you think I am? A Bah-stan fan?

Nuh-uh. Don't try to pin any of that crap on me. Blech. Make mine loaded nachos and diet coke. Mmmmmmm. Although I settled for heavily buttered and salted popcorn last night for the sweep. :)

Dan_ref Sat Oct 09, 2004 10:42am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: This is gettin' better!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
White Zin? Slightly chilled and served in a flute? And maybe a little tofu with it? And some of those nice bean sprouts?

Whatinthehell do you think I am? A Bah-stan fan?

Nuh-uh. Don't try to pin any of that crap on me. Blech. Make mine loaded nachos and diet coke. Mmmmmmm. Although I settled for heavily buttered and salted popcorn last night for the sweep. :)

Here, you're gonna need this at some point:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...lsize/9807.jpg

ChuckElias Sat Oct 09, 2004 11:28am

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: This is gettin' better!
 
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Here, you're gonna need this at some point:
Everything in moderation. And once the season starts, even less than that.

ChuckElias Sat Oct 09, 2004 08:08pm

Here we go! It's gonna be fun! Keep that little heart chart handy, Dan. You might need to refer to it in a week or so. :)

mick Sat Oct 09, 2004 09:35pm

O-o-o-o-oh, Boy !!
 
'At's what I'm talkin' 'bout! :)

Nevadaref Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:44am

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Manny and Pedro left for a little vacation in the Dominican after the game. They said that they'd try to make it back by Tuesday. They didn't say which Tuesday though.
After what happened to Rivera's family, this isn't so funny anymore. Huh, JR?

ChuckElias Tue Oct 12, 2004 08:50pm

Great googly-moogly. This is almost as bad as the game I was at! I just realized that Lowe had a foot injury in that game; and Schill has a foot injury tonight.

Does anybody besides me hate that "Scooter" animated baseball that explains the different types of pitches?

ChuckElias Tue Oct 12, 2004 10:00pm

Getting interesting!

canuckrefguy Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:46am

Yikes!

Can't say I understand why Torre waited so long to get Rivera in there....

This should be a dandy series!

dblref Wed Oct 13, 2004 05:29am

1 down, 3 to go. Come to daddy, Pedro.:D

ChuckElias Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:21am

Can't understand why Francona waited so long to get Schilling out. He had nothing.

Pedro is a complete wildcard right now. No idea what he's going to do. 0-4 in September and then masterful in the Division Series. Sox history in Game 2's is not good. . .

mick Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:39am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Can't understand why Francona waited so long to get Schilling out. He had nothing.

Pedro is a complete wildcard right now. No idea what he's going to do. 0-4 in September and then masterful in the Division Series. Sox history in Game 2's is not good. . .

Well hysterically, the Yankees lost the first game last year.
And Boston is trying to not repeat hysteria. :)
mick

Mark Dexter Wed Oct 13, 2004 02:27pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias

Does anybody besides me hate that "Scooter" animated baseball that explains the different types of pitches?

YES!!!

I thought Fox had gotten rid of it, but of course "he" has to reappear come LCS time . . .

(Not wanting to jinx it, but) thankfully they haven't put the 'lead meter' back up yet.

canuckrefguy Wed Oct 13, 2004 05:12pm

No sympathy here...

We had to put up with the glowing puck ! ! ! !

mick Wed Oct 13, 2004 06:19pm

Quote:

Originally posted by canuckrefguy
No sympathy here...

We had to put up with the glowing puck ! ! ! !

Now that's talkin' 'bout the old days.
mick

Jurassic Referee Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:07pm

http://www.smiling-faces.com/smilies...ted/crying.gif

dblref Thu Oct 14, 2004 07:33am

2 down, 2 to go. Come to Daddy, Pedro - Part 2

ChuckElias Thu Oct 14, 2004 08:29am

He didn't pitch poorly, he certainly wasn't shelled. The bats are letting them down. They're hitting .027 in innings 1-6. That's unbelievable.

[Edited by ChuckElias on Oct 14th, 2004 at 11:46 AM]

Jurassic Referee Thu Oct 14, 2004 09:01am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
He didn't pitch poorly, he certainly wasn't shelled.
Good story in the Bah-staaan Globe this a.m. Bill James, the numbers nerd, did his thing on Pedro. The result that he come up with was that Pedro's performance typically takes a noticeable nose dive right at 105 pitches. The 2-run shot that Olerud hit last night came on Petey's 106th. pitch of the game. Coincidence?

PS- Don't tell anyone, but I've been changing my mind about Manny. The guy just enjoys himself out there- likes to have fun. Great to see. Of course, he still hasn't learned how to run out a ground ball......but he certainly ain't alone there(including a coupla guys on the Yankees).

ChuckElias Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:22am

Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Coincidence?
Nope. How long have I been saying that he can't go more than 7 innings anymore? It's obvious to everyone. 105 pitches will probably get him through 6 innings nowadays, so maybe I should revise my mantra to "he can't go more than 6 innings anymore". In any case, it's obvious to everybody except Red Sox managers.

Dan_ref Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:53am


October 15, 2004
Back in Boston, 1,918 Reasons to Hope, Pessimistically
By PAM BELLUCK and KATIE ZEZIMA

BOSTON, Oct. 14 - Anyone but a Red Sox fan would think things were looking pretty grim right now.

Losing the first two games in the playoff series to - who else - the Yankees. Losing, at least for the time being, a star pitcher, Curt Schilling, to a hobbled right ankle.

And now, as the team prepares to play Game 3 on Friday in the hometown embrace of Fenway Park, the threat of a rainout has rattled the superstitious into thinking that the very atmosphere may just be rooting for New York.

But Red Sox fans are, well, Red Sox fans.

"It ain't over until the fat lady sings," said Jennifer Wheaton, 35, who was at the Fenway box office on Thursday chirpily picking up her tickets for Saturday night's game. "Boston always has to come from behind. We always end up being the underdog."

Ms. Wheaton, an event planner, has the whole thing scripted: "We win the next three games, we'll go to New York and really show them who's your daddy," she said.

Dennis Farrell, a Red Sox loyalist who lives in Queens, was approaching things with equal parts rationalization and Catholicism.

"The Yankees are built for Yankee Stadium, the Red Sox are built for Fenway Park," Mr. Farrell, 62, said. "I'm forcing myself to be optimistic."

And just in case, Mr. Farrell said, "I've got my rosary beads. I've got my green scapular. I've got all the religious signs."

Jim Semons is trying to stay positive, too. But it would be easier if his golden retriever would give him the go-ahead. Mr. Semons, 55, a pharmacist from Buxton, Me., is convinced that the dog, Copper, is a baseball soothsayer who can predict the outcome of each game. Mr. Semons puts a piece of biscuit in each hand and has Copper choose.

"Say I point to my right hand and say these are the Yankees and to my left hand and say these are the Red Sox, and he picks," said Mr. Semons, who alternates which hand corresponds to which team, and repeats the exercise five times, in case Copper's first pick was a fluke.

Mr. Semons, a model-train enthusiast, has been far away from his dog this week because he is attending a model-train show in York, Pa. But before he left, he asked Copper to pick the winner of Game 1, and the pooch picked the Yankees.

"I just don't feel too good about it," Mr. Semons said about the rest of the playoffs. "You can't seem to beat the Yankees."

But, he said, "you never know, stranger things have happened."

After 85 years of being vanquished, all too often by the boys from the Bronx, Red Sox fans practically own the copyright to comeback-kid clichés. But something is a little different this year. The 2004 Red Sox are so good that many fans have been lulled into believing that victory really is at hand.

"It's time," said Myles MacKinnon, 26, a country-club manager from Bridgewater, Mass., who met his girlfriend, Rachael Alpert, 23, at the Cask 'n' Flagon bar, directly across the street from Fenway Park's Green Monster, during last year's ill-fated Yankees-Red Sox playoff series.

"This team is built," Mr. MacKinnon said. "We made the changes in the off-season. The difference is better pitching. The hitting is ready, the bullpen is ready. I'm ready for it."

Trisha Saintelus, 40, who is the moderator of an Internet chat room run by the Red Sox announcer, Jerry Remy, said that this year, Red Sox fans were a little more confident, acting, perish the thought, "a little more like Yankees fans."

"We finally have a little bit of respect," Ms. Saintelus said. "They're not just a bunch of guys thrown together, and it works."

But the fact that fans have solid reasons for their optimism is "a double-edged sword that also makes it a little more frightening," said Glenn Stout, a baseball historian and co-author of "Red Sox Century."

"I think in their heart of hearts a lot of people weren't surprised they lost last year," Mr. Stout said. "I think if they don't win this year there'll be some genuine devastation because things seemed like they were lined up. If they find another way to lose in an excruciating fashion, that would make it exponentially worse."

And so, Red Sox loyalists cling to their superstitions and their suppositions.

Scott Merrill, 47, a financial manager from Nashua, N.H., was too nervous to watch the first two games, saying, "I can't watch the games in New York." But on Thursday morning he drove all the way to Fenway to pick up tickets for Saturday's game.

"Let's just say it's not over yet," Mr. Merrill said. "It's only two games. You can't overreact."

Peter Belmonte, 53, a lawyer from Melrose, Mass., developed a ritual last year when he noticed that whenever the Red Sox beat the Yankees, he was at his vacation house in Vermont. He tried to help things along by taking dirt from his Vermont home, packing it in a Ziploc bag and placing it under his lucky chair at his Melrose house. But alas, the sacred soil was not enough.

This year, Mr. Belmonte has been so jittery that he has left work early each game day, unable to concentrate. "It's not the losing," he said. "It's the way we were humiliated in the past. When you love baseball as much as we do in New England and you value it almost as a religion or an art form, you hate to see it desecrated."

But already some die-hard fans are shifting subtly back into the aura of the long-suffering loser.

"In my gut I just feel like we're going to blow it again," said Brett Rudy, 31, a marketing executive from Wakefield, Mass., worried that the predicted rain will mess up Friday night's game, and possibly throw off the series. He got so upset with the game on Tuesday night that he threw his dog's plastic squeaky toy across the room, breaking a curtain rod and infuriating his wife.

On Thursday, Mr. Rudy was trying to tell himself that the shock of winning could be too seismic. Maybe it is better to leave well enough alone.

"If they win there's nothing to talk about," Mr. Rudy said. "No one in this city would know what to do."


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mick Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:03am

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref

October 15, 2004
Back in Boston, 1,918 Reasons to Hope, Pessimistically
By PAM BELLUCK and KATIE ZEZIMA


Very entertaining, Sparky.

What does Woody say?
mick

Dan_ref Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:11am

Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref

October 15, 2004
Back in Boston, 1,918 Reasons to Hope, Pessimistically
By PAM BELLUCK and KATIE ZEZIMA


Very entertaining, Sparky.

What does Woody say?
mick

ARF ARF

:)

http://www.grcgla.homestead.com/files/happy_baci.jpg


Jurassic Referee Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:49pm

Is that a toothpick on Woody's tongue, or is he eating houses again?

Dan_ref Fri Oct 15, 2004 02:36pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Is that a toothpick on Woody's tongue, or is he eating houses again?
He started using the toothpicks when he quit smoking.

Jurassic Referee Fri Oct 15, 2004 03:58pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Is that a toothpick on Woody's tongue, or is he eating houses again?
He started using the toothpicks when he quit smoking.

Quit smoking? Was he on fire? :confused:

mick Fri Oct 15, 2004 04:03pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Is that a toothpick on Woody's tongue, or is he eating houses again?
He started using the toothpicks when he quit smoking.

Quit smoking? Was he on fire? :confused:

No, he got into the lawn mower gas and went "Woof!"

Jurassic Referee Fri Oct 15, 2004 04:16pm

Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Is that a toothpick on Woody's tongue, or is he eating houses again?
He started using the toothpicks when he quit smoking.

Quit smoking? Was he on fire? :confused:

No, he got into the lawn mower gas and went "Woof!"

Question: <i>"Does your wife smoke after sex?"</i>
Answer: <i>"I don't know, I've never looked."</i>

mick Fri Oct 15, 2004 04:19pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Is that a toothpick on Woody's tongue, or is he eating houses again?
He started using the toothpicks when he quit smoking.

Quit smoking? Was he on fire? :confused:

No, he got into the lawn mower gas and went "Woof!"

Question: <i>"Does your wife smoke after sex?"</i>
Answer: <i>"I don't know, I've never looked."</i>

What burns my butt is a flame about that high.

ChuckElias Sat Oct 16, 2004 09:04pm

ALCS Game 3
 
Can you remember a post-season game that was played as poorly as this one, by both teams?!?! :mad:

mick Sat Oct 16, 2004 09:28pm

Question, Chuck
 
Chuck,
Tim Wells takes that Itty-bitty step with his free foot when he delivers which provides no power.
Is he all about junk pitching in the mid 80's?
mick

ChuckElias Sat Oct 16, 2004 09:49pm

Re: Question, Chuck
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Chuck,
Tim Wells . . .
Is he all about junk pitching in the mid 80's?
mick

If you mean Tim Wakefield, then yes, that is what he's all about.

mick Sat Oct 16, 2004 10:45pm

Re: Re: Question, Chuck
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by mick
Chuck,
Tim Wells . . .
Is he all about junk pitching in the mid 80's?
mick

If you mean Tim Wakefield, then yes, that is what he's all about.

:rolleyes:Ps!
YU.P.
Thanks.

Jurassic Referee Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:37pm

http://www.sodamnfunny.com/Picture/Animal/photo8.jpg

Well, that pretty well sums that one up.

BktBallRef Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:40pm

That was the ugliest LCS game I've ever seen.

Thank goodness the good 'ol boys were on NBC.

Dan_ref Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:41am

Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
http://www.sodamnfunny.com/Picture/Animal/photo8.jpg

Well, that pretty well sums that one up.

I like this one better...

http://eur.news1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.c...l/l1250931.jpg

ChuckElias Mon Oct 18, 2004 09:02pm

Blown save by Mariano -- bodes well.

Wakefield relieving in the 12th -- not so much. . . :eek:

BktBallRef Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:18pm

The Yankees should just call Ortiz their daddy. :)

canuckrefguy Tue Oct 19, 2004 01:58am

Don't get yer hopes up, Sox fans....the curse is just playing with you....

dblref Tue Oct 19, 2004 06:35am

You gotta admit, the last 2 games have been interesting. You know the Yankees just wanted to get the series back to da Bronx so they could wind it at home.

ChuckElias Tue Oct 19, 2004 08:33am

Quote:

Originally posted by dblref
You gotta admit, the last 2 games have been interesting.
The whole series should have been like these last two games. Not just that the Sox won the last two, but the level of play has been soooooooooooo much better. More fun to watch, aside from being almost six hours long!

Mariano was placed in an almost-impossible save situation. But if you're the greatest post-season closer ever, I guess you're expected to do the almost-impossible.

rainmaker Tue Oct 19, 2004 08:45am

The part about last night that was so amazing was going almost four hours with no score in either game. My poor bored husband missed every single touchdown in the football game, to watch no one score for four hours!

ChuckElias Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:37am

Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
The part about last night that was so amazing was going almost four hours with no score in either game. My poor bored husband missed every single touchdown in the football game, to watch no one score for four hours!
And he's a better man for it. :) Scoreless football is a boring game of punts and field position. Scoreless baseball is a tense, exciting pitchers' (or in this case, bullpens') duel.

Don't get me wrong, I like football. I love my Superbowl-Champion, NFL-consecutive-game-winning-streak-holding, Patriots (gearing up for a battle of undefeateds against the Jets this week). But there is nothing like a great post-season pitching matchup.

rainmaker Tue Oct 19, 2004 11:11am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
The part about last night that was so amazing was going almost four hours with no score in either game. My poor bored husband missed every single touchdown in the football game, to watch no one score for four hours!
And he's a better man for it. :) Scoreless football is a boring game of punts and field position. Scoreless baseball is a tense, exciting pitchers' (or in this case, bullpens') duel.

Don't get me wrong, I like football. I love my Superbowl-Champion, NFL-consecutive-game-winning-streak-holding, Patriots (gearing up for a battle of undefeateds against the Jets this week). But there is nothing like a great post-season pitching matchup.

I think almost any pro sport is more interesting during the last few rounds of play-off and championship. I don't watch much the rest of the season. Although, I like the occasional football game on Monday evening, between bouts of homework and dishes. Uh... homework help...

ChuckElias Tue Oct 19, 2004 09:08pm

I can't believe that nobody has mentioned that the NBA season tips off tonight. What could people be watching instead?!?!

Jeez, what schedule was I looking at???? Preseason continues for over a week. I just didn't see the "preseason" tag on the Celtics score. Duh.

[Edited by ChuckElias on Oct 20th, 2004 at 08:41 AM]

mick Tue Oct 19, 2004 09:21pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
I can't believe that nobody has mentioned that the NBA season tips off tonight. What could people be watching instead?!?!
NYPD Blue, ... while holding the remote. :)

Jurassic Referee Tue Oct 19, 2004 11:26pm

Damn umpires!

Got both of them right.


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