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Old Fri Apr 02, 2004, 09:17pm
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Sitton would be a great choice!
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How 'bout dem Boys!!!!
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Old Sat Apr 03, 2004, 06:41pm
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GT/OSU
Tim Higgins, Jim Burr, and Donnie Gray
Duke/UConn
David Hall, Ted Hillary, Orlandis Poole

[Edited by Nevadaref on Apr 3rd, 2004 at 10:48 PM]
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Old Sat Apr 03, 2004, 06:46pm
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GT/OSU
Tim Higgins, Jim Burr, and ?
Duke/UConn
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Third for GT/OSU is Donnee Gray.
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Old Sat Apr 03, 2004, 09:12pm
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Thanks Mark.
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Old Sat Apr 03, 2004, 11:47pm
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not necessary to work the elite 8

Out of the six officials that worked the two games tonight in the Final Four, 4 worked Elite 8 games and the other 2 last worked in the Sweet 16.
Ted Hillary and Tim Higgins are the two who went from the Sweet 16 to the Final Four.
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Old Sun Apr 04, 2004, 04:33am
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Anyone know who is the alternate official on the Final Four? He was probably sitting at or near the table, but I just don't seem to recognize the faces not on the court very well.
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Old Sun Apr 04, 2004, 09:01am
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Who???

Who was the official in the Duke/UConn game that looked like a throw back to the 70s NBA? He would bend down and really be demonstrative. He also called out of his area a lot. A couple of times as the C he was so high, the Trail had to look at the L to make sure he was not out of position. He had the crew confused a couple of times.

Who is he?
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Old Sun Apr 04, 2004, 09:22am
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Old Sun Apr 04, 2004, 12:21pm
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Whats the Scoop?

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Whats your eval of him?
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Old Sun Apr 04, 2004, 03:52pm
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listening to sporting news radio and david hall is getting blasted by the media. the guy goes on record to say he is horrendous and very uncapable. i get a kick out of these guys that think they are the greatest officials in the world who have never worked a game. i will say this though, it wasnt one of hall's better games. we have all been there.

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Old Sun Apr 04, 2004, 04:20pm
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Re: Whats the Scoop?

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David Hall
Whats your eval of him?

my eval is that he was working the final 4.....
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Old Sun Apr 04, 2004, 05:38pm
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Re: Whats the Scoop?

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David Hall
Whats your eval of him?
Personally, I thought this crew (especially Hall) called it too close. Lots of fouls away from the ball that didn't seem to have a major affect on the play.

There were times during the game when I thought that would start to let them play a bit more, but it seemed like there was never any flow.

Having said that, take my opinion for what it's worth. I have one year of college experience. For me to criticize these officials is like Britney Spears criticizing Mozart.

Jay
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Old Sun Apr 04, 2004, 06:05pm
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PREDICTION!!

My prediction is that we will again be getting more posts within the next coupla hours telling us how bad the officials were tonight.All of these posts will say:
1) Even though I'm a just a disinterested viewer......
or
2) I am also an official but......

Wait and see.
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Old Sun Apr 04, 2004, 06:30pm
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This kind of stuff really makes me wonder.

The "cardinal rule" included on every NCAA officiating bulletin is "style of play will not dictate officiating". I assume this also extends to a conference's alleged style of play. The Duke-UConn game had A LOT, repeat, A LOT of physical play. Given the teams' recent history and tournament rivalry, the game was a train that could have easily jumped the tracks.

I saw very few, pretty close to NO foul calls that were not legitimate fouls. The only one I wondered about was Duke's 2nd last possession, where the guy drove, got stripped, and fell to the floor. They replayed it, but the camera was blocking out the area of contact. So I guess we'll just have to trust the lead official and his measly 20-30 years of NCAA experience, and God knows how many tournament and final four games.

For crying out loud, if the officials pass on calls, we're blind, dumb, and incompetent. Then a crew comes out, officiates a game CONSISTENTLY, and we hear the typical coach/fan dumb comment "HEY REF, LET 'EM PLAY".

This is why we officials are so quick to shake our heads some of the time - it's because you people can't make up your (Dexter)ing minds!
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Old Sun Apr 04, 2004, 07:08pm
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Then a crew comes out, officiates a game CONSISTENTLY, and we hear the typical coach/fan dumb comment "HEY REF, LET 'EM PLAY".

Exactly!! The game was officiated fairly, equitably and consistently. Officiating WAS NOT a factor, no matter what Coach Whineya$$ says..
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