Waving the arms, "T" or not?

[blindzebra]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

If it's an excitable player that's just trying to get his own fans going, I can't see any basis, or need, for a T. Nothing unsporting at all there, imo. [/B]

What if this excitable player jumps up on the scorer's table,grabs some pom poms from a cheerleader,or starts doing hand springs down the floor?

The dunk should get his fans going,everything else over a spontaneous reaction is showboating and IS unsporting based on the NF POE.

[canuckrefguy]

There's a fine line between officiating and "being officious".

If he's not clearly engaged in unsportsmanlike behaviour towards the other team or the officials, I can't see T'ing him in this situation.

[mick]

Originally posted by HoosierBuckeye Ref
Oh wait...

Last night in my intramural game, I was trail and called a foul up between the foul line and the arc and called it on the floor. I stepped in yelling "on the ground" and waving my arms to call off the shot.

Player then procedes to start waving his arms mocking my selling of the call. Bam, T.

Might have been the same kid who chased me off the court . . . even though he won.

Right mind set!
Next time try:

"On the floor!"
or

"No shot!"

You have fun.
mick

[WinterWillie]

Originally posted by mick


Right mind set!
Next time try:

"On the floor!"

Doesn't exist (like over the back).

"No shot!"

The correct call!


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[blindzebra]

Originally posted by canuckrefguy
There's a fine line between officiating and "being officious".

If he's not clearly engaged in unsportsmanlike behaviour towards the other team or the officials, I can't see T'ing him in this situation.

It can escalate,first it is a "raise the roof",then it is a throat slash,and before you know it they are pulling out sharpies and cell phones.

What the NF is trying to enforce is sportmanship and safety.A kid that dunks then plays to the crowd is likely to get nailed the next time he goes to the basket.There is nothing over officious about promoting proper conduct and
preventing retaliation.

[footlocker]

Wow, this is so subjective and any of these could be right. I can see myself handling this all these ways. It depends on game situation and quality of the coaches.

If I can go to a coach and ask for help on this, I probably will.
If I need to hit the whistle and explain to the player why this is wrong, I will.
If I interpret it as taunting based on score and game situation, I will T him.
If it looks like nothing, then I have nothing.

Point is, referee on the floor when it happens has to make this decision and live with it. No second guessing allowed here. You might do differently, but let's face it- any of these answers could be fitting.