It's amazing how a T can change the game

[footlocker]

Ok, time for a little honesty.

I don't know why these other refs are lying bballcoach. Probably to protect their butts.

Reality is, we usually get together before the game and discuss what team we think deserves to win. Sometimes though we decide during warm-ups. If we see players that look sloppy or disheveled- boom, their going to be foul trouble. In rare occasions officials disagree and that typically results in an even foul count. But this is rare.

Then there are the coaches. We have such tremendous respect for this job (because we all secretly wish that we could be coaches too, after all you get to have all the major impact on players) that our respect is sometimes confused with fear. That’s right, we’re afraid of coaches.

Sometimes, coaches just show up and coach their team; they don’t say anything to us. This makes our halftimes very difficult because we don’t know what to correct. But when good coaches, like you, show up and can coach their teams and help us with our jobs, it gives us some direction and tells us how we should call the game.

Unfortunately, not that many coaches are as talented as you. It seems in your game you were able to point out the officials’ error so eloquently that you were able to improve your team’s play and the officials’ ability to do their jobs. Kudos to you.

I wish I had more coaches that could put me in my place and get me to change the way I ref for the better. You are truly a gifted person.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by footlocker
Ok, time for a little honesty.

I don't know why these other refs are lying bballcoach. Probably to protect their butts.

Reality is, we usually get together before the game and discuss what team we think deserves to win. Sometimes though we decide during warm-ups. If we see players that look sloppy or disheveled- boom, their going to be foul trouble. In rare occasions officials disagree and that typically results in an even foul count. But this is rare.

Then there are the coaches. We have such tremendous respect for this job (because we all secretly wish that we could be coaches too, after all you get to have all the major impact on players) that our respect is sometimes confused with fear. That’s right, we’re afraid of coaches.

Sometimes, coaches just show up and coach their team; they don’t say anything to us. This makes our halftimes very difficult because we don’t know what to correct. But when good coaches, like you, show up and can coach their teams and help us with our jobs, it gives us some direction and tells us how we should call the game.

Unfortunately, not that many coaches are as talented as you. It seems in your game you were able to point out the officials’ error so eloquently that you were able to improve your team’s play and the officials’ ability to do their jobs. Kudos to you.

I wish I had more coaches that could put me in my place and get me to change the way I ref for the better. You are truly a gifted person.

Ooooooo, he got TOED!!

[Hawks Coach]

Your post is a keeper.

By the way, have you ever considered changing how you ref? I mean, after all, you always seem to T up the coaches who are most helpful to you in performing your duties, and never punish those who refuse to say anything to help you with your game. Kinda odd way to ref, isn't it?

[footlocker]

The T is my affectionate way of saying thanks for the help. "T" for Thanks.

[Hawks Coach]

I guess I have never been directly thanked, and now I know why. I will have to work on this

Unfortunately, I am still so busy trying to figure out how to get my players to do the right things that I have failed to adequately focus my attention on the refs.

[BigGref]

T's are a wonderful tool, like most most wonderful tools you don't really use them as much as you should; but there is still those rare mechanics who just love to use them

Dam Yankees!! GO RED SOX!!

I guess I am atracted to the Red Sox because I have a subconcious need to here how much I suck, and I can't ever get the big ones right!

[dvacha]

I agree with Windy City Ref.
What changes did you make at half time? Did you take the ball to the paint? Did you go to a zone defense? There are different varibles to why. Did you concentrate on Coaching?

[cmathews]

Bballcoach, be careful

Originally posted by footlocker
The T is my affectionate way of saying thanks for the help. "T" for Thanks.

If you are really helpful, like it seems you might want to be, there is a possibility of getting "T"hanked 2 times. If that happens it has become apparent that the other coach is obviously overmatched, with that in mind you will be asked to leave the facility to even things up.....

[davidw]

And so we come the end of a most enlightening thread---

Do I get to tie the knot?

P.S. I've been away for a couple of days, so I too want to say thanks to footlocker that laugh will last at least a week--Thank You!

[mplagrow]

Doggone it, I started reading this thread and I was hoping to jump all over it, but footlocker beat me to the punch. I personally would also like to ask what color Bballcoach's team wears. I have a system: red beats blue, blue beats black, black beats green. . . . .

Wow I can't believe all the zebras that are nice enough to give me their positive feedback of my post. While I appreciate your tactful comments I do still have one question. How is it not possible that someone that is human like you all say officials are, would not or could not be influenced by a coach. This is one that still no one can explain to me.

[cmathews]

Originally posted by BBallCoach
Wow I can't believe all the zebras that are nice enough to give me their positive feedback of my post. While I appreciate your tactful comments I do still have one question. How is it not possible that someone that is human like you all say officials are, would not or could not be influenced by a coach. This is one that still no one can explain to me.

Hey Bball coach, is your arm ok?? You know from patting yourself on the back?? Your name is a disservice to serious coaches everywhere and especially on this board. If indeed you do have the privelige of being in a coaching position, you are what we commonly refer to as a Howler Monkey...nothing more nothing less...Most officials on this board give Howler Monkeys what they deserve, a casual glance from outside the cage in the zoo, but we don't really let them affect us....

[Rich]

Originally posted by BBallCoach
Wow I can't believe all the zebras that are nice enough to give me their positive feedback of my post. While I appreciate your tactful comments I do still have one question. How is it not possible that someone that is human like you all say officials are, would not or could not be influenced by a coach. This is one that still no one can explain to me.

For me it's called turning a deaf ear. Or rather, it's knowing that I'm being worked at all times (not by all coaches, but just ones like you) and not letting myself get caught up in it.

There are officials that get caught up in the coaches -- I've seen coaches successfully take officials out of their games at all levels up through varsity. I just don't allow that to happen.

Course I work football, where coaches work the officials (especially the sideline guys) all game and baseball, where time stands still while coaches come on the field and act like complete morons. Basketball sticks them in a cute little 14' box for HS games and gives me a mechanism to end discussion (i.e., putting the ball into play). In my mind, I have the advantage there

--Rich

[mplagrow]

If this wonderful, respectful man is indeed a coach, then what he's doing on this forum is the same thing he does in a game. . . .wasting his time messing with officials when he could be working on his team's game. There are a lot of wonderful books, videos, and websites he could be using right now to improve the level of his coaching and his team's play, aren't there? But no, it's more fun to hang out here and see if he can get a rise out of us. Great idea, 'coach'! 90% of the guys on this forum will ref a lot longer than you coach, if you indeed are a coach at all.

[footlocker]

Mplagrow brings up some great points. I thought I could be of further help by researching a couple of popular basketball coaching forums. I have listed two below. Furthermore, mplagrow needs to be corrected for an earlier thread. I’m sorry; I usually back up other officials, especially in the presence of a coach. But I cannot let this obvious mistake slide. Blue does not beat black. You should know that. I’m so disappointed.


#1. http://www.basketball-toplinks.com/T...ge_Boards.html

#2. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/basketball-coaching/