It's amazing how a T can change the game

[ref18]

Originally posted by Snaqwells

Sometimes there's nothing like a T to whack some sense into a coach and get him to stop officiating and start coaching.

Well said, this is why i believe that a T is a tool that must be used more often not just threatened. I've found that the majority of coaches after one, never do anything that would earn them a second, and it makes it much easier for the officials and the players when the coaches shut up.
That's why I use the technical foul more often then most officials.

[nine01c]

Many , many times over the years it has been obvious to me that the second half of a game is MUCH different than the first half. I have often commented post-game how the two halves seemed like two separate games. I have experienced this flip-flop in foul totals from one half to the other.
The intensity (importance) of the game can make this occurance more likely.

I would go out on a limb and say the officials called the game as they saw it (how the kids played it). Your remark was insulting and deserved the T. The credit goes to them for focusing in a tough situation, not to you for your imagined influence. After the game the refs were probably pleased at how well the T calmed you and your team down! In case you aren't aware, it is NOT the officials' duty to "even up the fouls" in an effort to call a "fair" game, any more than it is their quest to "even up the score." That is not the purpose of having officials. It (mostly) is to enforce the rules so that no team gains an advantage by breaking them. Lopsided or not, the referees don't give a hoot (nice lady word, not in baseball season yet) who wins or loses.

Guys,

Thanks for all the feedback I have received so far. To answer a few questions the only change I made in our game plan once I got the T was I went to a man to man defense out of our 2-3 zone. Besides that we continued going to the basket hard and fighting for every loose ball and rebound. The other team played a man to man for the whole game and went after every loose ball and rebound very hard and after the T, the book shows that fouls went in my favor. Could it be that the officials had my statement in their head and believed that I was right?

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by BBallCoach
Guys,

Thanks for all the feedback I have received so far. To answer a few questions the only change I made in our game plan once I got the T was I went to a man to man defense out of our 2-3 zone. Besides that we continued going to the basket hard and fighting for every loose ball and rebound. The other team played a man to man for the whole game and went after every loose ball and rebound very hard and after the T, the book shows that fouls went in my favor. Could it be that the officials had my statement in their head and believed that I was right?

Could be.

Maybe they were thinking about who's playing 3rd base at 161st & River this year?

[Adam]

Originally posted by BBallCoach
Guys,
Could it be that the officials had my statement in their head and believed that I was right?

There are two answers, the long and short answers.

The short answer: "No."

The long answer: "He!l no."

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Maybe they were thinking about who's playing 3rd base at 161st & River this year?

Now you've done it. This thread will be closed for sure now.

Ref 18,

While I appreciate you taking time to read my post, I must ask you why the vulguar language? I'm just asking a simple question and do you appreciate you taking your time to read this post. Please just tone down the language if you would not mind, I do not believe I have ever cursed in any of my posts and if I have I apologize to the board. There is no need for such language as we are all supposed to be good role models for children. Thanks

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

Now you've done it. This thread will be closed for sure now.

Hey bubby...gonna buy your daughter a Yankees cap?

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by BBallCoach
Ref 18,

While I appreciate you taking time to read my post, I must ask you why the vulguar language? I'm just asking a simple question and do you appreciate you taking your time to read this post. Please just tone down the language if you would not mind, I do not believe I have ever cursed in any of my posts and if I have I apologize to the board. There is no need for such language as we are all supposed to be good role models for children. Thanks

He's not usually this way, obviously he's excited about the recent baseball news. Most of us are!

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Hey bubby...gonna buy your daughter a Yankees cap?

Yeah, I might do that. And monkeys might fly outta my butt!!!

[Adam]

I just have one question. "Jorge Posada is going to be batting 8th?"

[coachr]

BballCoach, I would say first of all that you are very fortunate that you were allowed to see the second half. If you continue coaching, you will find that a word fittly spoken will got a lot further than a tirade and you will maintain the coaching box as well as the respect of the officials. Any official will usually welcome an intelligent, SHORT discussion or question on a particular point. Everyone makes mistakes but gently pointing them out works a lot better than beating them over the head with them. You'll be amazed how a correct interpretation will find it's way to the court.
As to your second half foul count, if I was the other team I would probably have come after you in the second half. When I do, fouls happen. A team often reflects their coach. If they play like you have written that you coach, they will not focus on the game either. Foul them, they miss the basket and time is not running. Consider yourself lucky to have won but congrats just the same.
Remember,
"Diplomacy is the art of letting someone have your way" -Daniele Vare

[ref18]

Those damn Yankees. The only baseball hat i wear has a B on the front of it. Coincidently, that's the same baseball hat my High School assignor wears

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Snaqwells
I just have one question. "Jorge Posada is going to be batting 8th?"

Yeah, kinda sad...maybe he should try & get traded to the Red Sox where he would bat 5th or 4th.

Originally posted by Chuck I might do that. And monkeys might fly outta my butt!!!

Sigh...jealousy is so...so...unbecoming.

[Adam]

Originally posted by BBallCoach
Ref 18,

While I appreciate you taking time to read my post, I must ask you why the vulguar language? I'm just asking a simple question and do you appreciate you taking your time to read this post. Please just tone down the language if you would not mind, I do not believe I have ever cursed in any of my posts and if I have I apologize to the board. There is no need for such language as we are all supposed to be good role models for children. Thanks

Then I suggest that you not let your kids read this board, Coach. This is an adult board, and people who post things as provocative as this should expect some adult responses. And yes, challenging the integrity of your game officials qualifies as provocative. As provocative as you were to the officials in your game, you were more so here by justifying it as somehow being successful and making a point.