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Old Tue Jan 27, 2004, 08:03am
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I've coached boys and I've coached girls. Truly a difference in coaching style needed, although both were fun.

For girls we jokingly called our defense, "M'am to M'am". When talking about post players, girls DON'T like being called "big". They prefer "tall". And make sure you pat them on the shoulder!
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2004, 09:01am
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C'mon Chuck, this is a case of an overly sensitive person
Why is the word "person?" Isn't that also sexist? Shouldn't "perdaughter" also be considered?
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2004, 09:16am
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Note that it's obvious that she expected coach A to find this insulting.
Right, and yet somehow, when the male coach refers to the girls as boys, he expects them not to be insulted.



I don't believe the coach was referring to the girls as boys, he was simply referring to the type of defense he wanted his team to play.
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2004, 10:13am
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First of all, High School players are boys and girls not men and women. Secondly, IMO, man to man refers to the species not the sex. Basketball is usually nat playied by dogs, apes, martians, ect; it is playied by humans, commonly called a generic "man".
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2004, 10:13am
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Smile depends!

I personally think that it is harmless but on the other hand if a boys coach said to play girl to girl defense it would have to be considered and insult and would carry a negative connotation. Or would it be a compliment on the great defense played by girls all over the country? As officials we know, "it all depends on your angle."
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2004, 11:32am
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First of all, High School players are boys and girls not men and women. Secondly, IMO, man to man refers to the species not the sex. Basketball is usually nat playied by dogs, apes, martians, ect; it is playied by humans, commonly called a generic "man".
FINALLY!

Someone with a little English knowledge. The reason we call them the mailman, the policeman, the fireman is not because you have to be male to hold those jobs but because in the English languare the male and nueter use of nouns is the same. So by calling a woman a man using it in it's nueter form which is used during basketball games given our language should not be offensive to anyone. However calling a man a woman is offensive.

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Old Tue Jan 27, 2004, 11:39am
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However calling a man a woman is offensive.

[/B][/QUOTE]Not if he's neutered.
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2004, 11:48am
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The reason we call them the mailman, the policeman, the fireman is not because you have to be male to hold those jobs but because in the English languare the male and nueter use of nouns is the same.
Actually, they are "postal carriers", "police officers" and "firefighters".

Have you ever noticed how women refer to a group of other women as "guys" - as in "what are you guys doing"?
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2004, 11:48am
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Red face I coach girls, we play man

I have coached girls for years. We play man-to-man, and none of them object. These girls yell out "pick up your man," "whose man is that" (hope they don't yell that every possession!), etc., from our bench. I have attended numerous HS games this winter and heard the same thing from female coaches and the girls/women on the bench.

Like it or not, basketball started as primarily a men's sport, the terms are related to that beginning. We have man-to-man and zone defenses, and always will. I have never heard any of the 25+ coaches in our girls-only AAU organization call the defense anything but man-to-man. This includes both male and female coaches.

And when a rec coach tells a 4th grade boy to "pick up your man," do we really think he has a "man" to guard? Be serious - the term is used as a surrogate for player, not to suggest that a litle kid or a girl is a man.

This coach needs to lighten up. And no, I do not think calling the coach a lady is the same as that coach instructing his girls to pick up their man. Lady is not an acceptable term of art in basketball which is generally accepted to mean coach - man for player is an accepted surrogate and always has been.
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2004, 01:18pm
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This is the funniest post I have ever read in all the forums on the web. I think I would be laughing on the court when she pulled the lady crap on Coach A. Classic.
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2004, 01:31pm
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I think I'd tell her, "That is not covered in the rule book, you'll have to call the Politically Correct Police."
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2004, 02:59pm
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Something to ponder.....are girls insulting their opponents by making a reference to their opponent being a male when they yell "BALL, BALL, BALL, BALL, BALL, BALL"?

I mean, if your going to be PC (no, I don't mean Player Control), you should take it all the way.
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2004, 04:27pm
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However calling a man a woman is offensive.

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Not if he's neutered. [/B][/QUOTE]

J.R., Are you sure you're using the proper pronoun in this instance?
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2004, 05:09pm
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Welcome class to english 101 !!!!

p.s. they also call police officers (back when) Dicks

oooppps, did I say that?
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Old Tue Jan 27, 2004, 05:17pm
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p.s. they also call police officers (back when) Dicks
Was that just not the Detectives they called "Dicks?" I know police officers can be dicks, but that did not include everyone right?

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