Backcourt?

[Ricejock]

I have had 2 officials tell me this month, during a throw-in at your endline, behind your your goal, you can't throw a ball in your back court, without having a violation.

[mick]

Originally posted by Ricejock
I have had 2 officials tell me this month, during a throw-in at your endline, behind your your goal, you can't throw a ball in your back court, without having a violation.

Ricejock,
Those two officials are wrong.
There is no Team control during a throw-in, and without Team control a back court violation is not possible.
mick

[zebraman]

Choose your mentors wisely.

Z

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by Ricejock
I have had 2 officials tell me this month, during a throw-in at your endline, behind your your goal, you can't throw a ball in your back court, without having a violation.

Whenever someone tells me someone said something like this, I tell that person there's a simple explanation - they're wrong.

[Lotto]

Originally posted by mick

Those two officials are wrong.
There is no Team control during a throw-in, and without Team control a back court violation is not possible.

Under NCAA rules, there is team control during a throw-in, but there is an explicit rule that makes throw-ins as you describe legal. See 9-11.4 and 9-4.3 & 4.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally posted by Mark Padgett

Whenever someone tells me someone said something like this, I tell that person there's a simple explanation - they're wrong.

That reminds me of a game I did a few weeks ago.

V girls, my P calls an intentional foul. Good call. Plus the shot went in. So, we count two, I'm the new L and clear the lanes. Girl hits both free throws. Throw-in on the endline. A dribble or two and then another shooting foul. Coach wants to know, and gets a player to ask, "Why did she get two shots and the ball?"

I hear her ask this and knowing my P as well as I do, I already know what his response will be.

A split-second delay and he says: "because that's the rule." I know that he was going through some possible responses in his head and that's what he came up with.

Classic. The look on the girl's face was, after turning around to her coach, "why did you make me ask that?"

[mick]

Originally posted by JugglingReferee
.... after turning around to her coach, "why did you make me ask that?"

Thanks for the chuckle.
mick

[BktBallRef]

Okay, we discussed this one on a different board and it kinda got buried. Here goes:

A1, standing at the division line for the throw-in.

A2, in the BC, runs towards the FC.

A1 passes the ball in.

A2 leaps from the BC, catches the ball, lands with one foot in the FC first, then in the BC with her second foot.

Now, before you answer, take a thorough look at rule 9-9-3.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
Okay, we discussed this one on a different board and it kinda got buried. Here goes:

A1, standing at the division line for the throw-in.

A2, in the BC, runs towards the FC.

A1 passes the ball in.

A2 leaps from the BC, catches the ball, lands with one foot in the FC first, then in the BC with her second foot.

Now, before you answer, take a thorough look at rule 9-9-3.

That is a great question. The way I read it, it is still a violation.

"A player from the team not in control. (defensive player or during a jump ball or throw-in)..." There is no team control on a throw-in. Because of that, A2 qualifies as a player on a team not in control of the ball. Team A does not have team control on the throw-in.

Therefore, she may legally jump from her FC, secure control of the ball while in the air, and return to the BC without penalty. "The player may make a normal landing and it makes no difference whether the first foot down is in the frontcourt or backcourt."

Because this statement follows the description above, I read it applies specifically to that situation. In your example, the player did not jump from FC to BC, but went from BC to FC. Touching the ball in the air starts the clock and ends the throw-in. Landing in teh FC assigns her FC status. Subsequently placing her 2nd foot in the BC is a violation.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by JugglingReferee
Because this statement follows the description above, I read it applies specifically to that situation. In your example, the player did not jump from FC to BC, but went from BC to FC. Touching the ball in the air starts the clock and ends the throw-in. Landing in teh FC assigns her FC status. Subsequently placing her 2nd foot in the BC is a violation.

Agreed.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally posted by Ricejock
I have had 2 officials tell me this month, during a throw-in at your endline, behind your your goal, you can't throw a ball in your back court, without having a violation.

These officials are partially correct if they are officiating under FIBA or NBA/WNBA rules, but I have the distinct feeling they were not talking about those rules codes.

[OverAndBack]

I'm just a caveman, but do you or do you not have to be all the way over before you can be over and back (shameless username plug), or are there any exceptions to that?

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by OverAndBack
I'm just a caveman, but do you or do you not have to be all the way over before you can be over and back (shameless username plug), or are there any exceptions to that?

If you have one foot in the FC, the other foot is not touching in the BC, and you are holding the ball, you are all the way over.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally posted by OverAndBack
over and back (shameless username plug)

Are you saying that you're a violation?

A violation of what, I'm wondering.

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
Okay, we discussed this one on a different board and it kinda got buried. Here goes:

A1, standing at the division line for the throw-in.

A2, in the BC, runs towards the FC.

A1 passes the ball in.

A2 leaps from the BC, catches the ball, lands with one foot in the FC first, then in the BC with her second foot.

Now, before you answer, take a thorough look at rule 9-9-3.

Also look at last year's 9-9 Exception 1 (iirc).

Did the FED intend this (unannounced) change, or is it a sloppy editing job?