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JRutledge Mon Jan 05, 2004 06:44pm

Re: Re: He might be exposed.
 
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Originally posted by Bart Tyson


Sure i agree, a lot of players like being yelled at and called stupid. :)

Well then do not join the military. I am sure many were called more than stupid and they function.

I also do not think it is clear that the kids were called stupid or their actions were called stupid. I might not be the most experienced official in the world, but I have seen kids do a lot of stupid things on the court or field. And usually it is when the pressure gets higher.

Peace

Forksref Mon Jan 05, 2004 06:59pm

I had the opportunity years ago to attend a one-man coaching clinic. It was a two-day clinic and I learned a LOT of basketball. He was one of the best teachers of the game, ever! He forgot more about the game than we ever knew.

His name? Bobby Knight

But..... I know more about handling young men than Bobby ever knew. I'd never play well with his style in treating players. I don't see how anyone can be their best when they are constantly berated and their coach uses fear as a motivator. There are a lot more positive ways to correct a player.




williebfree Mon Jan 05, 2004 10:44pm

John Wooden
 
I am a little too young to have observed Coach Wooden during his successful endevour at UCLA, but from what I have heard it seems that he was NOT a coach who got results by berating his players or officials for that matter... I have been told that he said very little during the games and was quoted as saying something to the effect, "My players have learned in practice... yelling at them on the court is not necessary."


I had a very unique situation in a game last year where I made my best effort at game management to redirect a coach from his constant belittling of HIS players (7th grade boys). Unfortunately, near the end of the 2nd qtr, I had used up my progression of options and was forced to "whack" him. Suprizingly (NOT), he did not deal with it very well and he forced me to "whack" him again. As he departed the court, the fans (parents of the players on HIS bench) cheered!


Jurassic Referee Tue Jan 06, 2004 02:04am

Re: John Wooden
 
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Originally posted by williebfree
I am a little too young to have observed Coach Wooden during his successful endevour at UCLA, but from what I have heard it seems that he was NOT a coach who got results by berating his players or officials for that matter.


When it came to the officials, he was a yapper.

JRutledge Tue Jan 06, 2004 02:10am

Re: John Wooden
 
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Originally posted by williebfree
I am a little too young to have observed Coach Wooden during his successful endevour at UCLA, but from what I have heard it seems that he was NOT a coach who got results by berating his players or officials for that matter... I have been told that he said very little during the games and was quoted as saying something to the effect, "My players have learned in practice... yelling at them on the court is not necessary."

And kids today would have all kinds of problems playing for him today. He required hair to be cut a certain way. He was very much a disciplinarian. He might not have yelled and screamed, but he was hard on his players. And many did not like the man when they played at UCLA. So yes, he did not yell and scream, but players would find something to be upset about, because he would be the ruler of the program. There would be no "indians" trying to run the show, that is for sure.

Peace

Dan_ref Tue Jan 06, 2004 09:03am

Re: Re: John Wooden
 
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by williebfree
I am a little too young to have observed Coach Wooden during his successful endevour at UCLA, but from what I have heard it seems that he was NOT a coach who got results by berating his players or officials for that matter.


When it came to the officials, he was a yapper.

I've heard he's not just a yapper, he was a brutal yapper.

Jurassic Referee Tue Jan 06, 2004 09:22am

Re: Re: Re: John Wooden
 
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by williebfree
I am a little too young to have observed Coach Wooden during his successful endevour at UCLA, but from what I have heard it seems that he was NOT a coach who got results by berating his players or officials for that matter.


When it came to the officials, he was a yapper.

I've heard he's not just a yapper, he was a brutal yapper.

That was his rep amongst officials.


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