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BktBallRef Sun Jan 04, 2004 09:32pm

Re: Coddle away, if you like.
 
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Originally posted by Blade3
My coach is always calling us stupid, and other stuff. When we make a mistake he yells profane language at us. I'm getting tired of this and don't know what to do. What would you all do?
What we usually tried to do was to quit screwin' up.

That doesn't justify some of the profanity that's directed at kids these days.

I do not coddle whiners.

Well, he may or may not be whining. I've heard some pretty abusive coaches, and I think you could complain about them without whining.

Dan_ref Sun Jan 04, 2004 10:11pm

Re: Coddle away, if you like.
 
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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by Blade3
My coach is always calling us stupid, and other stuff. When we make a mistake he yells profane language at us. I'm getting tired of this and don't know what to do. What would you all do?
What we usually tried to do was to quit screwin' up.

That doesn't justify some of the profanity that's directed at kids these days.

I do not coddle whiners.

[Edited by mick on Jan 4th, 2004 at 05:21 PM]

A John Kerry supporter I see... :)

davidw Sun Jan 04, 2004 11:30pm

Re: Coddle away, if you like.
 
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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by Blade3
My coach is always calling us stupid, and other stuff. When we make a mistake he yells profane language at us. I'm getting tired of this and don't know what to do. What would you all do?
What we usually tried to do was to quit screwin' up.

That doesn't justify some of the profanity that's directed at kids these days.

I do not coddle whiners.

[Edited by mick on Jan 4th, 2004 at 05:21 PM]

If a coach calls us (officials) stupid or uses profanity directed towards us we react and T him up. But the kids have to just take it?

mick Sun Jan 04, 2004 11:54pm

Do players hafta take it?

I think they cannot, are not able to take it.
The children are soft. Their ears hurt or are injured to easily.

Let them all go get on a soap box and complain about their feelings to a bunch of people they do not know, a bunch of people that have never seen this interaction.
---or---
Let them go to their coach, their parents, their school officials and express their concern.
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"<I>My coach is always calling us stupid, and other stuff. When we make a mistake he yells profane language at us. I'm getting tired of this and don't know what to do. What would you all do?</I>"

This post says nothing about during a game and under our auspices. It reads to me like this is happening during practice. The way to stop a coach from yelling is to quit goofing off, to quit screwin' up or to start askin' some available authority for advice. Quitting is a very poor option.
mick

BktBallRef Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:06am

Hmmm, who said anything about quittin'? :)

davidw Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:11am

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Originally posted by mick
Do players hafta take it?

I think they cannot, are not able to take it.
The children are soft. Their ears hurt or are injured to easily.

Let them all go get on a soap box and complain about their feelings to a bunch of people they do not know, a bunch of people that have never seen this interaction.
---or---
Let them go to their coach, their parents, their school officials and express their concern.
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<U>The post reads</U>:
"<I>My coach is always calling us stupid, and other stuff. When we make a mistake he yells profane language at us. I'm getting tired of this and don't know what to do. What would you all do?</I>"


This post says nothing about during a game and under our auspices. It reads to me like this is happening during practice. The way to stop a coach from yelling is to quit goofing off, to quit screwin' up or to start askin' some available authority for advice. Quitting is a very poor option.
mick

I don't know how old this person is, though he/she sounds fairly young. I think age would come to bear in this matter. All he/she was asking for was advice--not being sure what to do and probably being somewhat immature (which is not necessarily a bad thing). Expecting a young person to have consumate communication skills on how to effectively approach a coach and resolve a personal and very potentially volatile situation like this is expecting a great deal.

I also read nowhere their intent to quit, only that the abuse was getting tiring.

It all seemed pretty open to me; an innocent request for ideas and help.

mick Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:15am

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Hmmm, who said anything about quittin'? :)
Just me, Tony.
I never recommend doing that.

We had a volatile coach in High school.
He cursed, he screamed, he belittled, he hit us with a clipboard.
Had a coupla good athletes quit their junior year.
Very bad choice, but we didn't need 'em anyway.
What don't kill us makes us stronger. ;)
mick

Dan_ref Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:18am

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Hmmm, who said anything about quittin'? :)
What don't kill us makes us stronger. ;)
mick

...except when it doesn't.

Not saying I agree or disagree with you about the kid & his coach, just disagreeing with your last comment.

JRutledge Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:25am

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Just me, Tony.
I never recommend doing that.

We had a volatile coach in High school.
He cursed, he screamed, he belittled, he hit us with a clipboard.
Had a coupla good athletes quit their junior year.
Very bad choice, but we didn't need 'em anyway.
What don't kill us makes us stronger. ;)
mick

I am recommending it. If you cannot take the heat, get out of the damn kitchen.

I do not care how old this kid is. I dealt with coaches that cursed and fussed a lot. I dealt with it and moved on. I would rather have the coach curse and fuss than run the heck out of us, like I had when I played sports. And would run us for how many points we gave up over a certain total or if we fouled out or how many FTs we missed.

These kids are just soft today. ;)

Peace

mick Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:31am

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Hmmm, who said anything about quittin'? :)
What don't kill us makes us stronger. ;)
mick

...except when it doesn't.

Not saying I agree or disagree with you about the kid & his coach, just disagreeing with your last comment.

Dan,
Yeah, I know. Yer right.
I used to be a parent.
I think we went with something like "break the will and but never the spirit".
Maybe it was because of the way I was coached. :)
mick

mick Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:38am

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Originally posted by mick

Just me, Tony.
I never recommend doing that.

We had a volatile coach in High school.
He cursed, he screamed, he belittled, he hit us with a clipboard.
Had a coupla good athletes quit their junior year.
Very bad choice, but we didn't need 'em anyway.
What don't kill us makes us stronger. ;)
mick

I am recommending it. If you cannot take the heat, get out of the damn kitchen.

I do not care how old this kid is. I dealt with coaches that cursed and fussed a lot. I dealt with it and moved on. I would rather have the coach curse and fuss than run the heck out of us, like I had when I played sports. And would run us for how many points we gave up over a certain total or if we fouled out or how many FTs we missed.

These kids are just soft today. ;)

Peace

Same coach, eh, Rut? :)

JRutledge Mon Jan 05, 2004 12:59am

Same coach.
 
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Same coach, eh, Rut? :)

:D

rcwilco Mon Jan 05, 2004 01:31am

Blade3,
This can be a difficult question to answer because we are not there to see or observe. There are some important factors such as your teams age, where and how often this "abuse" or "style of coaching" takes place and the temperment of all involved. If your coach is approachable then talk to him but do not whine or complain behind his back. Tell him that the coaching is bothering you or mention your concerns, then listen to what he says or tries to teach. If you are not comfortable with the coach, then try your parnets with the same thing. If you are not comfortable with that, find someone to communicate with, an assistant coach, a teacher or counselor, etc.
However, also realize that what may appear to be intolerable or unbearable MAY be a coach that is trying to get the most out of you and wants you to excel (not to be confused with winning at all costs). Many coaches truly care about their players and show it in different ways. And some coaches go to far. This is something you need to analyze, talk to someone if needed and then act appropriately. Best of luck and nice to see you on the board.

Snake~eyes Mon Jan 05, 2004 01:37am

Who cares if you're a player, T him up anyways. :D

ChuckElias Mon Jan 05, 2004 09:43am

Re: Re: Coddle away, if you like.
 
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by mick
I do not coddle whiners.
A John Kerry supporter I see... :)

Oh, ok. Nice to finally meet the one guy who's planning on voting for him. . . ;)


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