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Old Tue Dec 02, 2025, 11:43pm
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Multiple players out of bounds - tell them?

Team A scores a basket and Coach B calls a timeout. Out of the timeout, Team B has all 5 players out of bounds, which is legal, along the endline for the throw-in. Team B successfully completes the throw-in, moves up court, and scores. Team A inbounds the ball, moves up court, and commits a violation near the endline, awarding the ball to Team B for a designated spot throw-in. Coach B calls a timeout. Out of the timeout, Players B1-B5 come on the court and head towards the endline for the throw-in. B1, B2, and B3 go to spots out of bounds, which is illegal, along the endline.

How would you handle this? Would you begin telling the B players that this is not allowed? Would you put the ball at the disposal of B1 and then call an immediate Technical foul? Would you call some type of violation after giving the ball to B1 for the throw-in? Would you do nothing and allow the throw-in to continue? Other?
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Old Wed Dec 03, 2025, 05:31am
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Team A scores a basket and Coach B calls a timeout. Out of the timeout, Team B has all 5 players out of bounds, which is legal, along the endline for the throw-in. Team B successfully completes the throw-in, moves up court, and scores. Team A inbounds the ball, moves up court, and commits a violation near the endline, awarding the ball to Team B for a designated spot throw-in. Coach B calls a timeout. Out of the timeout, Players B1-B5 come on the court and head towards the endline for the throw-in. B1, B2, and B3 go to spots out of bounds, which is illegal, along the endline.

How would you handle this? Would you begin telling the B players that this is not allowed? Would you put the ball at the disposal of B1 and then call an immediate Technical foul? Would you call some type of violation after giving the ball to B1 for the throw-in? Would you do nothing and allow the throw-in to continue? Other?
I would administer the throw-in without instructing the team. Telling them that they need to be inbounds is coaching, not officiating. Once the ball becomes live, call the throw-in violation on Team B. That is the proper penalty.

Why would I not instruct the team? The coach knows enough to run this play following a made goal by the opposing team, so I have to believe that he should know that he cannot run it at other times.
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Old Wed Dec 03, 2025, 08:06am
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It's somewhat level dependent, but I agree with Nevada. I would be sure to emphases it's a spot throw-in and maybe give B an extra second or two to recognize and correct the issue.
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Old Wed Dec 03, 2025, 08:52am
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I would not tell them anything. Not much to tell. Other than maybe do not reach across the line as I often do with the defender guarding the in-bound pass. Other than that, nothing to say. Make sure everyone is in a legal spot and hand the ball to the thrower.

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Old Wed Dec 03, 2025, 09:40am
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It's somewhat level dependent ... I would be sure to emphases it's a spot throw-in and maybe give B an extra second or two to recognize and correct the issue.
Agree.
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Old Wed Dec 03, 2025, 11:02am
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Telling them that they need to be inbounds is coaching, not officiating.
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... maybe do not reach across the line as I often do with the defender guarding the in-bound pass.
"Get out of the lane!"

Moving players from incorrect marked lane spaces to correct marked lane spaces before bouncing the ball to free thrower.

There is a gray area between coaching and preventive officiating.

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Old Wed Dec 03, 2025, 01:39pm
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"Get out of the lane!"

Moving players from incorrect marked lane spaces to correct marked lane spaces before bouncing the ball to free thrower.

There is a gray area between coaching and preventive officiating.


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Old Wed Dec 03, 2025, 04:14pm
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There is a gray area between coaching and preventive officiating.[/IMG]
On one hand I don't want to run rules clinics during my games, but on the other hand I don't like playing "Got'cha" either.
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Old Thu Dec 04, 2025, 07:35am
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I'm going to tell them once, "this is a designated spot throw-in, you can't be out of bounds".

The same as I would if I see six players on the court for one team or while administering a free throw I see somebody standing on a lane line or administering a free throw and I see a non-lane player is below the FTLE or inside the three-point arc.

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Old Thu Dec 04, 2025, 11:01am
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The Devil’s Advocate

I am going to play the Devil’s Advocate.

Situation: The L is ready to administer the Ball to A1, the Free Thrower, and the L sees that, instead of B1 and B2 in the First Lane Spaces the L sees a) A2 and A3 in the First Lane Spaces or b) A2 is in one of the two First Lane Spaces. RULING: What say you?

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Old Thu Dec 04, 2025, 12:55pm
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Preventive Officiating ..

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I'm going to tell them once, "this is a designated spot throw-in, you can't be out of bounds". The same as I would if I see six players on the court for one team or while administering a free throw I see somebody standing on a lane line or administering a free throw and I see a non-lane player is below the FTLE or inside the three-point arc.
Agree 100%.
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Old Thu Dec 04, 2025, 12:56pm
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If It's Broken, Fix It ...

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Situation: The L is ready to administer the Ball to A1, the Free Thrower, and the L sees that, instead of B1 and B2 in the First Lane Spaces the L sees a) A2 and A3 in the First Lane Spaces or b) A2 is in one of the two First Lane Spaces. RULING: What say you?
Fix it.
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It's somewhat level dependent, but I agree with Nevada. I would be sure to emphases it's a spot throw-in and maybe give B an extra second or two to recognize and correct the issue.
This is what the official did.


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I'm going to tell them once, "this is a designated spot throw-in, you can't be out of bounds".

The same as I would if I see six players on the court for one team or while administering a free throw I see somebody standing on a lane line or administering a free throw and I see a non-lane player is below the FTLE or inside the three-point arc.
I share this opinion. I have another situation (illegal number) that could be added to this thread but I will make it a new one.
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