Dribble? Nothing?

[ilyazhito]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

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I would love to know who started the myth that a Player cannot start a Dribble before establishing a Pivot Foot?

MTD, Sr.

I had exactly that scenario happen in a JUCO game yesterday. The player was dribbling, then picked up the ball. He jumped into the air and threw the ball to the floor. I called an illegal dribble, because he started a second dribble after stopping the first.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

I had exactly that scenario happen in a JUCO game yesterday. The player was dribbling, then picked up the ball. He jumped into the air and threw the ball to the floor. I called an illegal dribble, because he started a second dribble after stopping the first.

Did he touch the ball again after "throwing (it) to the floor?"

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

The player was dribbling, then picked up the ball. He jumped into the air and threw the ball to the floor.

NFHS: How did you determine that this act wasn't the beginning of a really bad and really ugly bounce pass?

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Did he touch the ball again after "throwing (it) to the floor?"

Didn't the NFHS clarify this recently?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

The player was dribbling, then picked up the ball. He jumped into the air and threw the ball to the floor.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Did he touch the ball again after "throwing (it) to the floor?"

Originally Posted by BillyMac

NFHS: How did you determine that this act wasn't the beginning of a really bad and really ugly bounce pass? Didn't the NFHS clarify this recently?

4.15 Comment Dribble –Legal And Illegal Movement
4.15 COMMENT: It is not possible for a player to travel during a dribble. A player is not dribbling while slapping the ball during a jump, when a pass rebounds from a player's hand, when a player fumbles, or when a player bats a rebound or pass away from other players who are attempting to get it. The player is not in control under these conditions. It is a dribble when a player is in control of the ball, bats, throws, or pushes the ball to the floor, and is the first to touch the ball after it returns from the floor. It is not dribble when a player stands still and holds the ball and touches it to the floor once or more than once.

Rationale: The current rules do not provide a clear, singular definition of what constitutes a dribble, leading to inconsistent enforcement of traveling violations. By rule, a traveling violation at the start of a dribble does not occur until a dribble is completed by touching the ball after it returns from the floor. Officials have sometimes incorrectly ruled a traveling violation as soon as the ball is released to begin a dribble while the pivot foot is off the floor. Including this clarification in the casebook will improve officials’ understanding and promote consistent application of the traveling rule

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

I had exactly that scenario happen in a JUCO game yesterday. The player was dribbling, then picked up the ball. He jumped into the air and threw the ball to the floor. I called an illegal dribble, because he started a second dribble after stopping the first.

You should have called traveling.