The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jan 17, 2025, 08:44am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 18,161
Long Hair

A girl ( well, it could be a boy) has very long braided hair. It reaches down past the waist of her shorts. The hair is just braided / knotted -- there are no beads in it (a couple of years ago, language was added to address beads). What options, if any, does the official have?

If the scorer says the hair makes it hard to see the number, can the official ask the girl to place the hair inside her jersey? Can the official decide that the swingign hair is a danger and ask that it be tied / wrapped or put in the jersey? Is this just a general " poses a danger" guideline that we use for long fingernails, for example?

NFHS and NCAAW references, if possible, please
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jan 17, 2025, 09:25am
Esteemed Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 23,290
Safety Concerns ...

Safety Concerns 3-7: The referee must not permit any team member to participate if in his/her judgment any item constitutes a safety concern, such as, but not limited to, a player’s fingernails or hairstyle.

I had a concern this past week, boy, braids, medium length, no beads, but each braid ended with "hair knots". Braids swung around, but not enough to pose a hazard, not even to himself. I let him play.

Then I started to ponder, what if the knotted (no beaded) braids were long enough (more likely with a girl) to pose a hazard to said player or an opponent?

Even without beads, we can still use 3-7.

Of course, one risks being labeled culturally insensitive, and showing up on the national media, but safety comes first.

Also had a girl with medium length braids with beads this past week. The beaded braids were not close to the head, but didn't appear long enough to create any safety problem.

Coach and I discussed and decided to use a few bobby pins (now legal) to successfully prevent the beaded braids from any swinging around.

I did not want to appear on any national media.
__________________
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

“I was in prison and you came to visit me.” (Matthew 25:36)

Last edited by BillyMac; Fri Jan 17, 2025 at 09:27am.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jan 17, 2025, 10:56am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 18,161
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac View Post
Safety Concerns 3-7: The referee must not permit any team member to participate if in his/her judgment any item constitutes a safety concern, such as, but not limited to, a player’s fingernails or hairstyle..
From where is that reference? The actual rule wording is slightly different and more generic.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jan 17, 2025, 03:22pm
Esteemed Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 23,290
Purpose And Intent ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by bob jenkins View Post
From where is that reference?
Sorry, old rule book.

2024-25 NFHS Rulebook:

Safety Concerns 3-7: The referee shall not permit any team member to participate if in the referee’s judgment any item constitutes a safety concern.

Purpose and intent?

Is hair an "item"?
__________________
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

“I was in prison and you came to visit me.” (Matthew 25:36)

Last edited by BillyMac; Fri Jan 17, 2025 at 07:17pm.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jan 17, 2025, 04:28pm
Administrator
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toledo, Ohio, U.S.A.
Posts: 8,100
I wish I had hair!

MTD, Sr.
__________________
Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Trumbull Co. (Warren, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Wood Co. (Bowling Green, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Ohio Assn. of Basketball Officials
International Assn. of Approved Bkb. Officials
Ohio High School Athletic Association
Toledo, Ohio
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jan 17, 2025, 05:12pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: SE Ohio
Posts: 1,233
Tell the scooter to write long hair next to the players number and move on.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Thu Jan 30, 2025, 02:33am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2025
Location: Virginia
Posts: 3
It's always interesting to see how different leagues handle long hair rules. As long as it doesn't interfere with play or safety, it's generally acceptable, but the enforcement can vary.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Thu Jan 30, 2025, 12:49pm
Esteemed Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 23,290
Almost Cut My Hair (Crosby, Stills, Nash And Young, 1974)

__________________
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)

“I was in prison and you came to visit me.” (Matthew 25:36)
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Sat Feb 01, 2025, 01:53pm
Administrator
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toledo, Ohio, U.S.A.
Posts: 8,100
NFHS R2-S11-A4 (and NCAA Men's and Women's R2-S9-A2): "Record the field goals made, the free throws made and missed, and keep a running summary of the points scored." This Rule means that it is not important for the Scorer to see "who" scored a FG because the Officials Score is the "running summary of the points scored."

MTD, Sr.
__________________
Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
Trumbull Co. (Warren, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Wood Co. (Bowling Green, Ohio) Bkb. Off. Assn.
Ohio Assn. of Basketball Officials
International Assn. of Approved Bkb. Officials
Ohio High School Athletic Association
Toledo, Ohio
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
what's with all this hair? Rickwill Football 41 Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:09am
Hair loners4me Basketball 22 Sun Oct 14, 2012 02:32pm
Officials facial hair and hair style NEohioref Basketball 82 Fri Apr 02, 2010 07:44am
Girls with long hair in a ropelike braid. Loudwhistle Basketball 15 Mon Dec 31, 2007 08:38am
Hair buzzaroo Football 2 Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:09pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:58pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1