Free Throws ...

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Bob and Raymond are both incorrect. Since the try was never released, there cannot be an airborne shooter BY RULE. Therefore, if the official determines that the act of shooting had ended (try clearly will not be successful) no FTs are warranted. Of course, a held ball is the correct decision in this play as described, but if that is missed, then a common foul is the next option.

A1 went airborne to shoot. Whether or not they released the try is irrelevant. Shooting fouls without the release of the ball happen all the time.

A1is still airborne when the illegal contact occurs. Players are capable of releasing tries during their descent. Players are capable of releasing tries after having the ball initially capped by a defender.

If A1 wasn't capable of still releasing the try, then that contact to the forearm should have been ruled incidental.

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[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Raymond

A1 went airborne to shoot. Whether or not they released the try is irrelevant. Shooting fouls without the release of the ball happen all the time.

A1is still airborne when the illegal contact occurs. Players are capable of releasing tries during their descent. Players are capable of releasing tries after having the ball initially capped by a defender.

If A1 wasn't capable of still releasing the try, then that contact to the forearm should have been ruled incidental.

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You are hung up on the notion that A1 jumped to shoot. In this particular case that doesn’t matter. Since the ball was never released, A1 being airborne at the time of the foul is irrelevant. All that matters is whether the official deemed that he was still in the act of shooting at the time of the foul. The official clearly decided that the try had ended, so no FTs are warranted.

It is true that a foul in the act of shooting could prevent the ball from being released, but that foul would have to take place prior to the try ending.

[bob jenkins]

I agree with Nevada, and I apologize for my previous post. I frequently correct people on the definition of "Airborne Shooter", and I'm mad at myself for not seeing that in the OP.