Ball Watching ...

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The good news is that I only saw the old rule, with an offensive player, called once in forty-four years (by my partner). Never called it myself.

Hopefully it will be another forty-four years until the next time that I see it.

That's why they had to change the rule.

it might be 44 years before you see it, but it won't even be 44 games before it happens.

And, it's just not that hard to see and call in practice, if you pay attention to the players in your primary. You should have peripheral awareness of all of them and the ball anyway.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

You should have peripheral awareness of all of them and the ball anyway.

In addition to Raymond, others, on other websites, have suggested a delayed violation signal (outstretched fist) for a player who voluntarily goes out of bounds, suggesting that it was an "unapproved" NCAA signal.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

In addition to Raymond, others, on other websites, have suggested a delayed violation signal (outstretched fist) for a player who voluntarily goes out of bounds, suggesting that it was an "unapproved" NCAA signal.

That was actually on the Maine IAABO video! I think it’s a good idea.

Is this also a college mechanic?


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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

In addition to Raymond, others, on other websites, have suggested a delayed violation signal (outstretched fist) for a player who voluntarily goes out of bounds, suggesting that it was an "unapproved" NCAA signal.

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

That was actually on the Maine IAABO video!

Found out last night at our local Interpretation (New Rules) Meeting that Connecticut (a 100% IAABO state using IAABO "rules", "interpretations", mechanics, and signals) will use the delayed violation signal for a player stepping out of bounds under their own volition.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

In addition to Raymond, others, on other websites, have suggested a delayed violation signal (outstretched fist) for a player who voluntarily goes out of bounds, suggesting that it was an "unapproved" NCAA signal.

I would still use it and I will use it regardless of the approval process. Why? Because it makes it clear what you are about to call. We used to use the kicked ball signal before it was an "approved" signal. So it makes little difference to me what is approved at this point. If that is the worst someone can say about something I do, then so be it.

Peace

[JRutledge]

BTW, never called this on a defender and the rule has been around at the NCAA for years (over a decade). Even the offensive player violating is rare. It might see one time where a kid goes out, but they do not get the ball.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

It might be 44 years before you see it, but it won't even be 44 games before it happens.

If I saw it, I would have called it. In the game in which my partner called it, I was initially surprised that the team was running this type of illegal play (using a double screen) and I was about to call it but my partner beat me to the punch.

However, to bob's point, over forty plus years I have, on only two, or three, occasions warned players to, "Don't do that!".