Step Out Of Bounds ...

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Both a violation.

The way I understood the interpreters presentation the other day A would be legal.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

The way I understood the interpreters predeythr other day A would be legal.

I am not sure what you mean by "interpreters predeythr" but in A it is legal if the never throw the ball to the player or throw it to another player first.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

in A it is legal if the never throw the ball to the player or throw it to another player first.

Agree.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

A2 runs out of bounds around a double screen and comes back onto the court and catches a pass from A1 ... A) A1 was holding (touching) the ball after A2 reentered the playing court.

Who was the first to touch the ball after A2 reentered the playing court?

A1 was the first to touch the ball after A2 reentered the playing court (he was touching it after A2 reentered the playing court before he passed it to A2).

9-3-3: A player shall not step out of bounds under the player’s own volition and then become the first player to touch the ball after returning to the playing court ...

Perhaps we should refer to A1 as "Player Zero"?

Is there an ordinal number for zero?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Agree.



Who was the first to touch the ball after A2 reentered the playing court?

A1 was the first to touch the ball after A2 reentered the playing court (he was touching it after A2 reentered the playing court before he passed it to A2).

9-3-3: A player shall not step out of bounds under the player’s own volition and then become the first player to touch the ball after returning to the playing court ...

Perhaps we should refer to A1 as "Player Zero"?

Is there an ordinal number for zero?

A1 was not the first to touch the ball. They had the ball already.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

A1 was not the first to touch the ball. They had the ball already.

Thanks JRutledge.

I really like your simple, yet highly rational and thoughtful, explanation.

Hopefully we'll get some new casebook plays, or new annual interpretations (due soon), to clear this up.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Thanks JRutledge.

I really like your simple, yet highly rational and thoughtful, explanation.

Hopefully we'll get some new casebook plays, or new annual interpretations (due soon), to clear this up.

Peace

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

The way I understood the interpreters presentation the other day A would be legal.

Either your interpreter or your understanding of what was said is incorrect.

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Either your interpreter or your understanding of what was said is incorrect.

Do we have a zero person now? How long does A2 have to be in bounds with A1 holding the ball for him to A2 to legally touch the pass?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

Do we have a zero person now? How long does A2 have to be in bounds with A1 holding the ball for him to A2 to legally touch the pass?

Until the shot clock runs out? Oh wait...

I could swear I remember a time when NCAA-Men's would have the Lead stick out their arm similar to a delayed violation on free throws.

[BillyMac]

From LHSOA Basketball Officials Training 2023-24 NFHS Rules Changes video:

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

From LHSOA Basketball Officials Training 2023-24 NFHS Rules Changes video:

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[BillyMac]

Best I can do.

Here's the entire LHSOA Basketball Officials Training 2023-24 NFHS Rules Changes video: