Comments On The 2023-24 Rules Changes ...

[JamesBCrazy]

Originally Posted by Raymond

New throw-in spots. If there is a BC violation other than stepping on the division line, the throw-in spot is either the 28' ft line or 3ft from the lane line. Still have college officials who get that wrong.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but:

If Team A commits a BC violation in their own FC (or precisely at the division line, which is in both teams' BC) Team B will still be throwing it in from their BC, the same as last year's rule.

Only if Team A commits a BC violation in their own BC (and not at the division line) will Team B throw it in from one of the four throw-in spots.

(Knowing this forum, this is going to cause overly pedantic debates over precisely what is meant by "the spot of the violation.")

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JamesBCrazy

Correct me if I'm wrong, but:



If Team A commits a BC violation in their own FC (or precisely at the division line, which is in both teams' BC) Team B will still be throwing it in from their BC, the same as last year's rule.



Only if Team A commits a BC violation in their own BC (and not at the division line) will Team B throw it in from one of the four throw-in spots.



(Knowing this forum, this is going to cause overly pedantic debates over precisely what is meant by "the spot of the violation.")

NCAA men's clarified a few years ago if the back court violation is caused by Team A touching the division line, they wanted the ensuing throw in for Team B at the division line, which made it a back court throw in with implications on the shot clock.

Since the NFHS seems to be copying the NCAAM's throw-in rule, the NFHS should provide a case play or interp for clarity, IMHO.



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[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Raymond

NCAA men's clarified a few years ago if the back court violation is caused by Team A touching the division line, they wanted the ensuing throw in for Team B at the division line, which made it a back court throw in with implications on the shot clock.

Since the NFHS seems to be copying the NCAAM's throw-in rule, the NFHS should provide a case play or interp for clarity, IMHO.

The fact that the shot clock is not in play (meaning a reset to 20 seconds or so) at this point, where you put the ball really is not as important for high school. It is just more about what the NF ultimately wants to do. But they have to clarify this as you stated or people will be debating this on the court. Not the place we need indecision over a throw-in spot.

Peace

[Valley Man]

4-36, 6-4-3, 7-5-2 thru 4, 9-1 PENALTY 3, 9-4 PENALTY, 9-5 PENALTY, 9-6 PENALTY, 9-8 PENALTY, 9-9 PENALTY, 9-12 PENALTIES 3 & 4, 9-13 PENALTY — Establishing four throw-in spots (the nearest 28-foot mark along each sideline or the nearest spot 3-feet outside the lane line on the end line) when a team gains or retains possession in its frontcourt due to a violation, a common foul prior to the bonus or any stoppage other than an out-of-bounds eliminates much of the judgment for an official about where exactly the throw-in spot should be located and allows teams to develop throw-in plays both offensively and defensively from four pre-determined locations.

Offense calling a time out just over the division line will allow offense to move the ball up to the 28' mark in essence .. correct?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Valley Man

4-36, 6-4-3, 7-5-2 thru 4, 9-1 PENALTY 3, 9-4 PENALTY, 9-5 PENALTY, 9-6 PENALTY, 9-8 PENALTY, 9-9 PENALTY, 9-12 PENALTIES 3 & 4, 9-13 PENALTY — Establishing four throw-in spots (the nearest 28-foot mark along each sideline or the nearest spot 3-feet outside the lane line on the end line) when a team gains or retains possession in its frontcourt due to a violation, a common foul prior to the bonus or any stoppage other than an out-of-bounds eliminates much of the judgment for an official about where exactly the throw-in spot should be located and allows teams to develop throw-in plays both offensively and defensively from four pre-determined locations.



Offense calling a time out just over the division line will allow offense to move the ball up to the 28' mark in essence .. correct?

That is correct.

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[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JamesBCrazy

Correct me if I'm wrong, but:



If Team A commits a BC violation in their own FC (or precisely at the division line, which is in both teams' BC) Team B will still be throwing it in from their BC, the same as last year's rule.



Only if Team A commits a BC violation in their own BC (and not at the division line) will Team B throw it in from one of the four throw-in spots.



(Knowing this forum, this is going to cause overly pedantic debates over precisely what is meant by "the spot of the violation.")

Just reread your question and realized there were two parts to it.

Yes, if Team A commits a back court violation where the actual violation takes place in their own front court (ball bounces into the back court then returns into the front court before being touched by Team A), Team B's throw in will be in their back court at a designated spot closest to the violation.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

2022-23 Misunderstood Basketball Rules list: If a player's momentum carries the player off the court, that player can be the first player to touch the ball after returning inbounds. That player must not have intentionally left the court for an unauthorized reason, and must immediately return inbounds. That player must have something in, and nothing out. It is not necessary to have both feet back inbounds. It is a technical foul for a player to purposely or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds. It is a violation for a player to intentionally leave the court for an unauthorized reason.

I just revised my 2023-24 Misunderstood Basketball Rules list.

A player who steps out of bounds under the player's own volition and then becomes the first player to touch the ball after returning to the playing court has committed a violation. A player whose momentum causes that player to accidentally go out of bounds may be the first to touch the ball inbounds. That player must not have intentionally left the court for an unauthorized reason, and must immediately return inbounds. That player must have something in, and nothing out. It is not necessary to have both feet back inbounds.

It is a violation for a player to intentionally leave the court for an unauthorized reason. It is a technical foul for a player to leave the playing court for an unauthorized reason to demonstrate resentment, disgust, or intimidation. It is a technical foul for a player to purposely or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds.

I will revise again if I discover that I'm wrong.

My local Interpretation Meeting (rule changes) is Wednesday, October 18, 2023.

[BillyMac]

Also revised these:

Shorts on teammates, while allowing for different styles, must be the same color. Players are required to tuck in jerseys that are designed to be tucked inside the shorts.

Undershirts must be a single solid color similar in color to the torso of the uniform jersey, and shall not have frayed edges. Undershirts worn by a visiting team may be black, or a single solid color similar to the torso of the jersey. Undershirts shall be the same color for all members of a team who choose to wear them. Undershirt sleeves shall be the same length. Note that this rule does not require all players to wear the same length sleeves on their undershirts, but each individual player must have sleeves the same length on the undershirt when worn.

I will revise again if I discover that I'm wrong.

My local Interpretation Meeting (rule changes) is Wednesday, October 18, 2023.