Chin-up

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

This lends to my thought that there are no "players" until the ball is live to start the game.

I find it interesting that a team could get a "do-over" (substitute in the listed starter) to avoid a penalty if discovered as the "players" gather for the jump ball, or may later get a totally free pass after the ball is tossed.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I find it interesting that a team could get a "do-over" (substitute in the listed starter) to avoid a penalty if discovered as the "players" gather for the jump ball, or may later get a totally free pass after the ball is tossed.

I can't think of a reason a coach would opt for the penalty instead of just making a sub on the first dead ball unless the player were Cal Ripken Jr.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

... unless the player were Cal Ripken Jr.

Cal Ripken, Jr. plays basketball?

My son was third basemen (Ripken played third base late in his career) in Little League and still has a poster of Cal Ripken, Jr. on his childhood bedroom wall.