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Old Tue Dec 13, 2022, 01:47pm
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The rules say for a reset for 30 and a reset for 20 is when a try his the ring or flange.

Rule 2-11.6.a.4 says:


And Rule 2-11.6.d.1 says:



Nothing about the release. IJS

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I know all this. Believe me, I searched the rulebook in the locker room That's why I was wondering if it used to be different.
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Old Wed Dec 14, 2022, 10:39am
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I know all this. Believe me, I searched the rulebook in the locker room That's why I was wondering if it used to be different.
It could have been. I do remember what Raymond said about what John Adams said. But I believe it only involved a block. I do not think the rules apply that way anymore.

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Old Wed Dec 14, 2022, 07:33pm
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Found it. NCAA-M 9-11-2

A shot-clock try for field goal is defined as the ball having left the shooter's hand(s) before the sounding of the shot-clock horn and then striking the ring or flange, or entering the basket.

I knew it. Wish I'd been more positive during the game. No reset in the original situation.
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Old Thu Dec 15, 2022, 12:02am
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Found it. NCAA-M 9-11-2



A shot-clock try for field goal is defined as the ball having left the shooter's hand(s) before the sounding of the shot-clock horn and then striking the ring or flange, or entering the basket.



I knew it. Wish I'd been more positive during the game. No reset in the original situation.
I'm trying to think if I ever had that situation. I probably did but the player went back up with a shot so fast, we didn't need to address the shot clock.

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Old Sun Dec 18, 2022, 11:54pm
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Found it. NCAA-M 9-11-2

A shot-clock try for field goal is defined as the ball having left the shooter's hand(s) before the sounding of the shot-clock horn and then striking the ring or flange, or entering the basket.

I knew it. Wish I'd been more positive during the game. No reset in the original situation.
I don’t care for this rule, but I understand why it was written that way. I now recall a discussion several years ago about a team with a small lead trying to run out the clock late in the game. The question was if A1 were to purposely smack the ball into the ring without letting go of it (so that Team A could retain possession) would the shot clock reset. Most felt that this was attempting to circumvent the shot clock rule and that it was unfair.

That said, this mindset shouldn’t apply when the game clock is not a factor, such as in the middle of the first half.

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Old Mon Dec 19, 2022, 12:16pm
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To Paraphrase Preacher Roe ...

Sometimes you eat the common sense and sometimes the common sense eats you.

Fun fact: Major League pitcher Preacher Roe, while coaching high school basketball after the 1945 baseball season, suffered a fractured skull in a fight with a referee.

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... use common sense to just call the game.
Never met a truly great official who didn't have a ton of common sense.

99% of the time JRutledge's statement is true.

But not this time.

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NCAA-M 9-11-2: A shot-clock try for field goal is defined as the ball having left the shooter's hand(s) before the sounding of the shot-clock horn and then striking the ring or flange, or entering the basket.
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