6 players on the court - women's college

[BillyMac]

10.5.3 SITUATION: A5 has just received his/her fifth foul of the game. A5 (a) is erroneously permitted to remain in the game for another two minutes before the scorer realizes the mistake; or (b) leaves the game after the coach is notified of the disqualification. At the intermission between the third and fourth quarter, A5 reports as a substitute and subsequently enters the game. RULING: In (a), as soon as the error is discovered, the player is removed from the game, no penalties are assessed. In (b), A5 will not actually "participate" until the ball becomes live. If detected prior to the ball becoming live, A5 would be directed to the bench and no penalty assessed unless the official deemed it was a deliberate attempt to circumvent the rules. If detected after the ball becomes live, it is a technical foul charged directly to the head coach resulting in the loss of coaching-box privileges. The player is immediately removed from the game and Team B is awarded two free-throws and the ball. (2-11-5 Note 2)

[BillyMac]

Theses are not rhetorical questions:

https://forum.officiating.com/basket...ml#post1049252

[BillyMac]

F) Team A has six players on the court. Officials are unaware of this infraction. Team A has been awarded two free throws. The first free throw is missed. No substitutions are made. After bouncing the ball to the free thrower, and with the ball at the free thrower's disposal for his second free throw, the officials realize that Team A has six players on the court. The ball is live, and the clock is stopped. What’s the call?

I'll go first because I can go cherry picking. This one is easy.

1) Six players, one in excess.
2) Observed by on-court official.
3) Six players are on the court.
4) The ball is live.

Team technical foul. Clear the lane. Give Team A shooter his second free throw. Two free throws by any Team B player(s). Team B ball at the division line.

All of my other questions (A-E, F-J) involve dead balls, two involve dead balls and running clocks.

No penalty?

Just "fix" it?

Just doesn't seem right, especially the two clock running situations?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

We all know who's fault this is ... Sometimes we can't control this (player rushing off the bench), but many times we can.

Originally Posted by Raymond

... think back over your 40 years of officiating about which rule is something we as officials always try to prevent from being violated b/c we tend to blame ourselves when it happens.

From my pregame: Before throwins “sweep the floor”, count five players each team, check the table for substitutes, check team fouls toward bonus situations (communicate with partner on six and nine), good eye contact before putting ball in play. A hand up in the air by the off official means not ready.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

... A hand up in the air by the off official means not ready.[/I]

This is why I tell off-officials not to raise their hand to mirror the chop until the throw-in is at disposal. If they put it up early, administering official thinks they're indicating to not to begin the throw-in.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

This is why I tell off-officials not to raise their hand to mirror the chop until the throw-in is at disposal. If they put it up early, administering official thinks they're indicating to not to begin the throw-in.

Great point.

Here in two-person 100% IAABO mechanics Connecticut, the non-administering official doesn't mirror the chop.

In our rare three-person games, a non-administering official has the option to mirror the chop if the timer may not have a good look at the administering official.

Some of us will "off label" mirror the chop in a two-person game if the timer does not have a good look at the administering official and there are only a few seconds or fractions of a second left, especially in a middle school game that may be timed by a student.