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Old Wed May 04, 2022, 10:52am
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Bobby pins? Barrettes? Beads?

Beads attached to very long braids? How close to the head?

Hair adornments made of soft material? Ribbons?

Color restrictions?
I would rather wait until this is specified because it is possible those are not what they are talking about. Also, many players that are African-American or of African decent wear things in their hair that is part of their hairstyle that is not these things. So I am wondering if this is kind of what they are addressing, but that is an assumption. Just a trend with some laws that used to kind of outlaw certain hairstyles and now that is becoming a norm.

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I would rather wait until this is specified because it is possible those are not what they are talking about.
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Wonder if the NFHS will broach and clarify the difference between the actual ten second rule (start count at possession) and the shot clock guidelines posted last year (use shot clock to count ten seconds, starting count at touch)?
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Wonder if the NFHS will broach and clarify the difference between the actual ten second rule (start count at possession) and the shot clock guidelines posted last year (use shot clock to count ten seconds, starting count at touch)?
My gut tells me that any and all guidance from the NFHS will have NCAA Men's/Women's written all over it. Jeff and Bob (Jenkins), what do you think?

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My gut tells me that any and all guidance from the NFHS will have NCAA Men's/Women's written all over it. Jeff and Bob (Jenkins), what do you think?

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Didn't the NF specifically put something out to suggest that the shot clock would be used as the 10-second count? If that is the case then I would expect the touch to be the start similar to what the NCAA does.

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A player inbounds legally touches or is touched by the ball on a throw-in; or
A team initially gains control after a jump ball or unsuccessful try for goal; or
Control of a loose ball is gained after a jump ball; or Unsuccessful try for goal.
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Didn't the NF specifically put something out to suggest that the shot clock would be used as the 10-second count? If that is the case then I would expect the touch to be the start similar to what the NCAA does.
NFHS shot clock ten second rule says "touch" while NFHS stand-alone ten second rule remains unchanged and still says "possession".

One, or the other, has to be changed.

Or, perhaps the NFHS will leave it up to shot clock states to decide?
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NFHS shot clock ten second rule says "touch" while NFHS stand-alone ten second rule remains unchanged and still says "possession".

One, or the other, has to be changed.

Or, perhaps the NFHS will leave it up to shot clock states to decide?
I think it only makes sense for the shot clock. Otherwise leave it alone. If you are not using the shot clock then there is no reason to muddy the water with when a 10-second count starts. But neither state has adopted such rule so it is not relevant to me at this point.

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Actual Rule verbiage and Casebook/Rules Interpretations.

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Not much to write home about. I guess we have to see what those adornment and hair rules involve.

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Bobby pins? Barrettes? Beads?

Beads attached to the ends of very long braids? How close to the head?

Hair adornments made of soft material? Ribbons?

Color restrictions?
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I would rather wait until this is specified because it is possible those are not what they are talking about. Also, many players that are African-American or of African decent wear things in their hair that is part of their hairstyle that is not these things. So I am wondering if this is kind of what they are addressing, but that is an assumption. Just a trend with some laws that used to kind of outlaw certain hairstyles and now that is becoming a norm.

Peace

I agree with Jeff and Bill. We will have to wait until the actual NFHS Rules and Casebook/Rules Interpretations are published in October 2022. Then I will get on my soap box, LOL!

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