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Old Sat Apr 09, 2022, 10:51pm
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It strikes me that the three types of violations are classified on the basis of how we dispose them:

1. Opponent gets a throw-in.
2. Opponent is awarded points.
3. Opponent either gets a substitute free throw or has their free-throw cancelled.

Of course there are nuances, but that’s the basic framework.


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Nice! I never thought of it that way.

I have always found the classification of violations into three types as useless at best and confusing at worst.

This was because I didn’t understand how several violations fit into the system. For example, jump ball violations, throw-in violations, or timing violations (3-seconds, ten seconds in the backcourt, etc.) would all be covered under article 1.

I’m going to reflect upon this a bit as it seems that teaching the penalties for types 2 & 3 would be useful. That way everything else is type 1 and results in a throw-in.
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Old Sat Apr 09, 2022, 11:13pm
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Not a good fit

I had heard them stated as "timing" violations which would be 5 seconds, 10 seconds, close guard, etc; "ball handling" violations such as traveling, double-dribble, etc; and "other" violations which would be goal-tending or basket interference.

I don't like these because "other" just doesn't cut it for me and these don't include defensive violations. I am also not satisfied with what is in Rule 4-46 but do accept that it is the rule - it seems to me we could classify the violations into better categories and basket interference is in there twice.

Maybe we need 5 types of violations.
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Old Sun Apr 10, 2022, 11:04am
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I have always found the classification of violations into three types as useless at best and confusing at worst.
Maybe it was translated poorly from the ancient Aramaic, Hebrew, or Greek used by James Naismith.
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