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The home jerseys are legal by current standards, but the away jerseys are not, because there is no clear visible contrast between the borders and the jersey body color. If the coach attempted to have the team play with the away jerseys, and there were no other dark jerseys that could work, he's getting T'd for illegal uniforms.
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Road team lost at the buzzer, so they won't be causing any more headaches this year. Next year? Who knows?
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Let's make this a realistic, real game, situation; not a rulebook, written exam situation.
One notices these black on black blue border road jerseys in the layup lines. It's a varsity 2021-22 mid-season regular season game in your local area. We'll assume that offending team doesn't have replacement jerseys, and we'll also assume that one knows and agrees with bob jenkin's interpretation. You have not received any prior knowledge of this situation. It was a total surprise. You're the referee. Your partner doesn't know if the ball is inflated or stuffed. Do you? 1) Charge the offending head coach with a direct technical foul for illegal uniforms, two free throws to the offended team's best free throw shooter, seat belt to the offending head coach, start game with offending team throwin. 2) Discuss with the offending team head coach (and only this coach) the possibility that these my be illegal uniforms, do not charge a technical foul, tell the coach that you will contact your assigner, and that his athletic director should contact the state association, start the game as usual. 3) Discuss with both head coaches the possibility that these my be illegal uniforms and leave it up the offended head coach as how the game should progress. Tell the offending coach (no matter what) that you will contact your assigner, and that his athletic director should contact the state association. 4) Totally ignore the situation as if it never happened. 5) Ignore because one disagrees with bob jenkin's interpretation, worry about it in 2024-25.
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Im not sure I would love being your assigner. Im sure youre a wonderful person, but on the court your apparent inability to find the gray between the black and white must be utterly confounding at times. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Answered ???
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I'm likely going with door number two. Anybody else care to share? I think we already know lyazhito's answer.
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I would ask the offended team if they have dark jerseys. If they have legal dark jerseys, we play and report the game to the assigner. If not, then I will go with option 1. At least I won't get in trouble with the chain of command for following the rules. If I have to write things up, I will say that I have pursued and exhausted all options to allow the teams to play legally before I had to resort to the rulebook solution for illegal uniforms. I cannot allow the game to be played without sanction if I am unable to identify the players on the court.
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Contrasting Colors ...
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But this issue is not a fully black and white issue. Sure, if the was a uniform number was six, that would definitely be illegal. If this was 2024-25, the jersey in question in this thread would definitely be illegal. But it's 2021-22. Is the color dark blue a contrasting color to black? As much as I respect bob jenkins, I'm not sure that I would charge a technical foul in a state tournament game solely based on his opinion regarding contrasting colors. Especially when these road uniforms have obviously passed the "smell test" all season long. Better to leave it up to my assigner and the state association. Contrasting Color: A variance from a color of two steps or more in value ... on the Munsell Color Order System (hue, value, and chroma). Is dark blue one step or two steps varied from black?
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With that being said, unless I'm 100% sure it's a technical foul, I'm not charging a technical foul.
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Ignoring, or sending it up the chain of command?
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As a non-official, I'm not sure how to handle these matters. I can't ignore it, but I'm not confident enough to charge the technical foul.
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Especially without a Munsell Color Order System Chart in my back pocket.
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Rules do not apply here
One of the problems we face in Texas is that when we get to the State tournament the governing body will tell officials not to enforce the uniform rules. For instance, they will allow a player in a white uniform to wear red leggings and/or will not require all of the players to match colors for headbands, sleeves, etc.
They are the ones sanctioning the event so we have been told by our association to just go along with it since it does not affect the game play. We do it one way all season and are chastised for not enforcing these rules only to do it differently when we get to the highest level. It is very frustrating!
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The Land Of Steady Habits ...
Opposite here in Connecticut. Officials who will occasionally overlook fashion issues in their regular season varsity games (but are selected by coaches to officiate the state tournament because they can officiate the hell out of a game) are told by the state association to enforce all fashion rules in the state tournament.
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