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Old Wed Mar 09, 2022, 12:11pm
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You are forfeiting the game? Because what if they do not have other jerseys? Isn't there a remedy for this already?

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I have provided several solutions. They could also play in a set of PE pinnies, as long as the numbers contrast with the body color of the jerseys. If the home team has the issue, I would ask them to get an older set of uniforms that have contrasting numbers, or else light-colored PE pinnies. If the practice jerseys have numbers, we could use those as well.

I would make sure that both teams have legal uniforms. If legal uniforms cannot be secured, the coach gets a technical foul.
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2022, 12:15pm
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If legal uniforms cannot be secured, the coach gets a technical foul.
That's your remedy (if you so desire). Play ball.
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2022, 12:22pm
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... the numbers contrast with the body color of the jerseys ...
Not necessarily so in 2021-22. One has to factor in the border (it must contrast with the jersey color if the number color is the same as the jersey color). See my "home jersey" post and photo above (legal in 2021-22, blue border definitely contrasts with white number and white jersey).
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2022, 01:28pm
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2022, 02:50pm
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The home jerseys are legal by current standards, but the away jerseys are not, because there is no clear visible contrast between the borders and the jersey body color. If the coach attempted to have the team play with the away jerseys, and there were no other dark jerseys that could work, he's getting T'd for illegal uniforms.
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2022, 03:18pm
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The state tournament should not be the first time this issue is being raised. And, maybe the team has a waiver from the state.
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2022, 03:27pm
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The state tournament should not be the first time this issue is being raised. And, maybe the team has a waiver from the state.
Both teams were from outside our local area. My two friends didn't even broach the subject with the coaches (so no information to offer about a possible waiver), figuring that, over ten-plus road games, some out of area officials must have, at least, questioned the jersey and number color combination. They did however (pregame on the court) discuss that this color combination would be illegal in a few years.

Road team lost at the buzzer, so they won't be causing any more headaches this year. Next year? Who knows?
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Old Wed Mar 09, 2022, 05:53pm
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Real Game Situation ...

Let's make this a realistic, real game, situation; not a rulebook, written exam situation.

One notices these black on black blue border road jerseys in the layup lines. It's a varsity 2021-22 mid-season regular season game in your local area. We'll assume that offending team doesn't have replacement jerseys, and we'll also assume that one knows and agrees with bob jenkin's interpretation. You have not received any prior knowledge of this situation. It was a total surprise. You're the referee. Your partner doesn't know if the ball is inflated or stuffed.

Do you?

1) Charge the offending head coach with a direct technical foul for illegal uniforms, two free throws to the offended team's best free throw shooter, seat belt to the offending head coach, start game with offending team throwin.

2) Discuss with the offending team head coach (and only this coach) the possibility that these my be illegal uniforms, do not charge a technical foul, tell the coach that you will contact your assigner, and that his athletic director should contact the state association, start the game as usual.

3) Discuss with both head coaches the possibility that these my be illegal uniforms and leave it up the offended head coach as how the game should progress. Tell the offending coach (no matter what) that you will contact your assigner, and that his athletic director should contact the state association.

4) Totally ignore the situation as if it never happened.

5) Ignore because one disagrees with bob jenkin's interpretation, worry about it in 2024-25.

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Old Wed Mar 09, 2022, 10:14pm
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I have provided several solutions. They could also play in a set of PE pinnies, as long as the numbers contrast with the body color of the jerseys. If the home team has the issue, I would ask them to get an older set of uniforms that have contrasting numbers, or else light-colored PE pinnies. If the practice jerseys have numbers, we could use those as well.

I would make sure that both teams have legal uniforms. If legal uniforms cannot be secured, the coach gets a technical foul.

I’m not sure I would love being your assigner.

I’m sure you’re a wonderful person, but on the court your apparent inability to find the gray between the black and white must be utterly confounding at times.


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